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[Texicano]

Certain breedings you'd use certain birds some related some not. Just to start out I'd try all different blood if possible

Thanks Sdm

 

[JShubin]

Thanks Sdm

Seems like you have some good blood to choose from already.. Try working with what you got.. and find the best of the best in your flock.. Create a Trio with your two largest sister hens and put them with the cock that would beat up all the other roosters.

I go for the skill or heart of the cock and not generally his size. I like to look for size on the female side typically (because my thoughts are bigger boned chicks come from bigger eggs, which I have also observed).

Overall judgement of individual birds based on many things... I dont judge based on bloodlines, but I try to avoid inbreeding. I sometimes try to set a trait, and sometimes a trait sets by itself, and other times new traits show up which are fun to experiment with.

To me its a constant changing things and improving... I dont like the idea of keeping things pure or breed consistent, because I think it will create a stagnant situation.. Change is constant.

Just my opinion... I dont know much and still learning.

 

[JShubin]

 

[SOHC-FTW]

Go for ninja skills.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Seems like you have some good blood to choose from already.. Try working with what you got.. and find the best of the best in your flock.. Create a Trio with your two largest sister hens and put them with the cock that would beat up all the other roosters.

I go for the skill or heart of the cock and not generally his size. I like to look for size on the female side typically (because my thoughts are bigger boned chicks come from bigger eggs, which I have also observed).

Overall judgement of individual birds based on many things... I dont judge based on bloodlines, but I try to avoid inbreeding. I sometimes try to set a trait, and sometimes a trait sets by itself, and other times new traits show up which are fun to experiment with.

To me its a constant changing things and improving... I dont like the idea of keeping things pure or breed consistent, because I think it will create a stagnant situation.. Change is constant.

Just my opinion... I dont know much and still learning.

Without keeping things pure or consistent the outcome would be inconsistent at best. It's one thing to cross and try to make them better but at some point I would think you would have an idea in mind what your looking for. Constantly crossing over and over won't really get you anywhere. May or may not be able to recreate the outcome.

 

[sdm111]

Seems like you have some good blood to choose from already.. Try working with what you got.. and find the best of the best in your flock.. Create a Trio with your two largest sister hens and put them with the cock that would beat up all the other roosters.

I go for the skill or heart of the cock and not generally his size. I like to look for size on the female side typically (because my thoughts are bigger boned chicks come from bigger eggs, which I have also observed).

Overall judgement of individual birds based on many things... I dont judge based on bloodlines, but I try to avoid inbreeding. I sometimes try to set a trait, and sometimes a trait sets by itself, and other times new traits show up which are fun to experiment with.

To me its a constant changing things and improving... I dont like the idea of keeping things pure or breed consistent, because I think it will create a stagnant situation.. Change is constant.

Just my opinion... I dont know much and still learning.

all due respect this isn't quite accurate

 

[JShubin]

Thats fine... just trying to start the conversation to help Texicano... good for him to hear your views on my non-sense.

 

[JShubin]

Without keeping things pure or consistent the outcome would be inconsistent at best. It's one thing to cross and try to make them better but at some point I would think you would have an idea in mind what your looking for. Constantly crossing over and over won't really get you anywhere. May or may not be able to recreate the outcome.

True. Setting traits is where I see consistency and helps keep track of what I am doing.

Haphazard crossing is not going anywhere except in circles. Too many variables. But I like experimenting. And I dont like to import too many that I cant keep track of it.

 

[Texicano]

Seems like you have some good blood to choose from already.. Try working with what you got.. and find the best of the best in your flock.. Create a Trio with your two largest sister hens and put them with the cock that would beat up all the other roosters.

I go for the skill or heart of the cock and not generally his size. I like to look for size on the female side typically (because my thoughts are bigger boned chicks come from bigger eggs, which I have also observed).

Overall judgement of individual birds based on many things... I dont judge based on bloodlines, but I try to avoid inbreeding. I sometimes try to set a trait, and sometimes a trait sets by itself, and other times new traits show up which are fun to experiment with.

To me its a constant changing things and improving... I dont like the idea of keeping things pure or breed consistent, because I think it will create a stagnant situation.. Change is constant.

Just my opinion... I dont know much and still learning.

Well I certainly appreciate the advice Shubin and that goes for anybody in this thread (willing to gimme them juicy secrets lol) I'm mainly wanting a good Radio Bc to throw at my Radio Hens this upcoming breeding season.

Let me clarify a little.
All those Grey stags are going out the door to the man who provided the Grey BC. Technically he's mine now but the deal was I raise some stags for him. That's how it was with some of the Radios I raised.

That's also the Situation with the "Hatch" line, I put that in quotes because it turns out all the hens are half Leiper (Yes Havoc you were right on the money about that one). He told me to keep those stags from this year, but he wants to show the Gradios himself. I'm pretty much being taxed but it's no dirt off my shoulder as he has provided all my lines and is low key giving me his top guns as he has already sold many of his other lines off, keeping only a couple broodfowl and proven cocks/stags. He hinted he's going to retire from the game altogether.
In total he has provided:
Ruble Hatch BC
Chocolate Grey BC
Radio Hens
Hatch Leiper Hens
Radio BC (which he took and switched with the Radio Sweater)
Radio Sweater BC (dead)

Which brings me to my Point: If I get my hands on one solid Radio to breed, I can churn out some pure radios. I also want some chocolate grey hens to churn out some pure greys. J&D gamefarms boasts a lot about their chocolate line. Eventually get my hands on some pure Ruble Hens as well and produce some pure Rubles.

Get the best stags from those pure lines and start crossing with the best pullets to produce solid battle crosses through single pen breeding.

I will be going to Mexico this December, and my father tells me he knows an excellent cocker from our hometown who he used to partner with in his Cocking days. My father quit raising game when he moved to Texas but his amigo continued, made it big, and supposedly now has a huge successful breeding program shipping birds to the states, Mexico, and even Southeast Asia. Hopefully we connect with him at some point during our vacation and maybe I bring back a little something to the states.

I have no plans of expanding this operation Its definitely Quality > Quantity. I just love gamefowl, I love the sport, and want to produce the best of the best.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Well I certainly appreciate the advice Shubin and that goes for anybody in this thread (willing to gimme them juicy secrets lol) I'm mainly wanting a good Radio Bc to throw at my Radio Hens this upcoming breeding season.

Let me clarify a little.
All those Grey stags are going out the door to the man who provided the Grey BC. Technically he's mine now but the deal was I raise some stags for him. That's how it was with some of the Radios I raised.

That's also the Situation with the "Hatch" line, I put that in quotes because it turns out all the hens are half Leiper (Yes Havoc you were right on the money about that one). He told me to keep those stags from this year, but he wants to show the Gradios himself. I'm pretty much being taxed but it's no dirt off my shoulder as he has provided all my lines and is low key giving me his top guns as he has already sold many of his other lines off, keeping only a couple broodfowl and proven cocks/stags. He hinted he's going to retire from the game altogether.
In total he has provided:
Ruble Hatch BC
Chocolate Grey BC
Radio Hens
Hatch Leiper Hens
Radio BC (which he took and switched with the Radio Sweater)
Radio Sweater BC (dead)

Which brings me to my Point: If I get my hands on one solid Radio to breed, I can churn out some pure radios. I also want some chocolate grey hens to churn out some pure greys. J&D gamefarms boasts a lot about their chocolate line. Eventually get my hands on some pure Ruble Hens as well and produce some pure Rubles.

Get the best stags from those pure lines and start crossing with the best pullets to produce solid battle crosses through single pen breeding.

I will be going to Mexico this December, and my father tells me he knows an excellent cocker from our hometown who he used to partner with in his Cocking days. My father quit raising game when he moved to Texas but his amigo continued, made it big, and supposedly now has a huge successful breeding program shipping birds to the states, Mexico, and even Southeast Asia. Hopefully we connect with him at some point during our vacation and maybe I bring back a little something to the states.

I have no plans of expanding this operation Its definitely Quality > Quantity. I just love gamefowl, I love the sport, and want to produce the best of the best.

Whoa gimme a min while I dig out my chest waders. The sh*t is starting to pile up fast.