The average time in chickens these days in three years. No one knows all there is to know about games and anyone who says they know it all are liars.....or just plain ignorant. In my experience ....you need to find people willing to listen.....you certainly can't force them to do the right thing. Most people think they know it all and they take chances that are very risky. Most of the time they need to see the destruction themselves. I usually don't spend a lot of time with people that already know it all. I figure if after all this time and all the successes I have had with my birds, if they don't want to at least listen, then they are on their own.
Walt