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chick on right is a Redmond grey/leiper cross and on left is a leiper/muff cross . I cant figure out y the grey cross is so dark unless its a throw back from the black fowl that went in to remonds decades ago. also I wood like to now what is the factor in muffs that determine the black muff is it the Brest that determines the color of the muff because I hope they are black that's what I want note the muff visible on this chick
What do the parents of the brown chick looking like.
 







first pic is leiper/remond cross #1 and last 3 are Redmond/ leiper cross#2 last stag is son of leiper hen of pair #1 and father is cock of muff/leiper cross the grey hen is sister to the Redmond grey in grey/ leiper cross #1. o yea note grey cock has better tail in #1 and the net for my protection. also my leipers come red eye but chicks so far that I can see are black like the redmonds. also all my redmonds are straight comb leipers are 70%pea comb. also note my leipers have red blotches in Brest they have come like that for longer than I can remember and I have had them for 18 years and rex sanders had them for 30 years all breed true except for some pea and straight comb
 
The egg laying health issues are very unusual. In future make certain that is actual problem to prevent culling for wrong reasons.


Feed you are using is fine if birds are free-range but not if confined. Up protein by including a balanced formulation that is higher than targeted amount of protein intended for birds to consume. My males on a maintenance ration I like have consuming a protein level of about 13% which can be realized by mixing a chick grower with a mixture of whole grains. Grains I use include millet, whole oats, BOSS, whole corn and whatever I can scratch up. Hens in lay will need a richer higher protein mix of about 14 to 15% crude protein with a free-choice side of oyster shell. Always make sure birds have access to some greens. You will have to do some math to figure out how much of each feedstuff to mixture.

We had one that died from this. I swore I would never see another hen go through what she had gone through. For 3 months I saw Lemon barely moving around, and most of the time just sitting with her head down. When I see cooked egg coming out, I know what it means. However i normally hold off on culling until when I see it more then once because they can sometimes clear it up. However after 2 weeks of seeing it with Brownie once or twice a week and no eggs from her, I decided it was time for us to make sure the end was quick and painless for her. Yesterday I began wondering because each one that has had this issue has come from TSC, so now I am wondering if it has to do with breeder quality????? I still have 2 reds from there and am now keeping a very close eye on those 2.

For now I only have the one rooster, and he has a hard time eating the whole field corn like my big chickens do, so I bought the scratch. I thought it was going to be like what I normally get for laying hens, but nope it had pieces of whole oats and stuff in it. I guess then if I get the chick starter and put it in it will work, along with maybe some cracked corn. I think I can crack some in the blender. He gets plenty of green grass, the pen he has now we can move, before the old pen didn't have green grass the bigger hens had scratched it all up.
 
I start my chicks out with pure Rena mill game bird starter 19% pro than at 4 months and forever its 50%game starter 50% game layena on one side than a mix of sweet feed, pigeon feed, ans small amount of cracked corn all of the later is mixed in 200 gall barrel then at feed time mix 50/50 crumbles with the feed grain mix. I treat my game fowl just like my game birds not like chickens that is a good way to look at it that's what a wise old cocker ones told me and I have done that and it works for me.

I will have to look and see if TSC has the game starter. Not sure if they do or not. I also have a man coming in from the NC state University today, will see if he can help me out with that a bit. Treat them like wild birds. Ok That I can remember. I would imagine it is the same thing with Sumatras, Phoenix, and Yokahams. I will try and even get a big bag of wild bird seed if they normally forage in the wild then they would be eating that as well. I know my whole corn was to big for him. We grow 5 acres a year of field corn so we have plenty of corn for them all, but we don't ever crack it. However it can be cracked up in my blender I have done it a few times before.
 
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new sweater pair just out of quarantine not being photogenic and the hen up on the roost
 

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