SILVER PIED ??????

[AugeredIn]

another question ??
I have a young White female with a single gene Wesp
next spring I'll have coupled with his father SILVER PIED
Here is the table :


Is it correct

Yes! Correct.

 

[Jack07]

Yes! Correct.

thank you for your help
I hope not to bore you with my questions
what to do in case of dual split
Par exemple : IB/IB/BS/M ( Indian Blue split blackshoulder and split Mitnight
we have three options ????
IB//BS/M
IB/BS
iB/M
Is it correct

 

[AugeredIn]

I think you will have better luck understanding the possible combinations if you start listing the gene pairs separated by a colon.

India Blue split Black Shoulder and split Midnight would be shown as follows: IB/M:BS/Nw

IB = India Blue
M = Midnight
BS = Black Shoulder
Nw = normal wing (barred)

The combinations would be:
IB:BS
IB:Nw
M:BS
M:Nw

Your not boring me at all!

 

[Garden Peas]

thank you for your help
I hope not to bore you with my questions
what to do in case of dual split
Par exemple : IB/IB/BS/M ( Indian Blue split blackshoulder and split Mitnight
we have three options ????
IB//BS/M
IB/BS
iB/M
Is it correct

@Jack07 , I don't think the BS pattern mutation and the midnight color mutation are alleles. So theoretically, the IB parent which was split to BS pattern and also split to midnight color would not necessarily have to transmit either the BS gene or the Midnight gene to his or her offspring. I think you could also get (considering the contribution from that parent only), just the IB gene, which would be a fourth possibility. In other words, I think it would also be possible that neither of the split genes would turn up in the offspring.

Jack07, je pense que les deux gènes, le gène motif nigripen et le gène couleur minuit, ne sont pas allèles. Alors le paon ou paonne divisé ne doit necessairèment donner ni l'un ni l'autre gène divisé au poussin. Je pense qu'il y a un résultat quatrième où le poussin ont seulement le gène IB et non plus les gènes divisé.

Vos inquiries sont persipace et pertinent. Personne ne soit ennuyé.

 

[Jack07]

I think you will have better luck understanding the possible combinations if you start listing the gene pairs separated by a colon.

India Blue split Black Shoulder and split Midnight would be shown as follows:  IB/M:BS/Nw

IB = India Blue
M = Midnight
BS = Black Shoulder
Nw = normal wing (barred)

The combinations would be:
IB:BS
IB:Nw
M:BS
M:Nw

Your not boring me at all!

thank you I understood cons I have a problem with MIdnigt White Eyed Split Blackshoulder :

IB/M/We: BS/M/We ????????

Possible combination ?????

IB/M/BS/We
IIB/BS/We
IB/M/We
IB/We
M/BS//We
M/We
BS/We

?????????

 

[Garden Peas]

thank you I understood cons I have a problem with MIdnigt White Eyed Split Blackshoulder :

IB/M/We: BS/M/We ????????

Possible combination ?????

IB/M/BS/We
IIB/BS/We
IB/M/We
IB/We
M/BS//We
M/We
BS/We

?????????

@Jack07

Si le paon se montre divisé à motif nigripen et à couleur minuit, et puis le même paon ont les yeux blancs, il y a peut-être plusiers choix pour ecrire la formule pour ce paon si nous ne savons lequel gène WE et combien gènes WE le paon port, l'un ou deux dans son gènotype.

je pense que @AugeredIn voudraient que vous l'ecrivez comme ça:

IB/M:BS/Nwing:WE/WE

Voyez que nous mettons les deux gènes qui soits alternatifs ensembles avec le / entre chacun, et suivi nous mettons le : et suivant par la paire de gènes prochaîne.

Mais en ce cas ci, je ne sais pas si je dois écrire WE ou WEsp ou peut-être tout les deux, ou peut- être seulement un WE (lequel?) et puis une lettre N dire que les yeux couleuré normal, pas blancs.

J'ai perdû tant de posts alors je le traduirais dans post suivant. Prie de m'excusez, je m'en depeche aujordhui, pas de temps pour le traduction de ordinateur

 

[Garden Peas]

@Jack07

Si le paon se montre divisé à motif nigripen et à couleur minuit, et puis le même paon ont les yeux blancs, il y a peut-être plusiers choix pour ecrire la formule pour ce paon si nous ne savons lequel gène WE et combien gènes WE le paon port, l'un ou deux dans son gènotype.

je pense que @AugeredIn voudraient que vous l'ecrivez comme ça:

IB/M:BS/Nwing:WE/WE

Voyez que nous mettons les deux gènes qui soits alternatifs ensembles avec le / entre chacun, et suivi nous mettons le : et suivant par la paire de gènes prochaîne.

Mais en ce cas ci, je ne sais pas si je dois écrire WE ou WEsp ou peut-être tout les deux, ou peut- être seulement un WE (lequel?) et puis une lettre N dire que les yeux couleuré normal, pas blancs.

J'ai perdû tant de posts alors je le traduirais dans post suivant. Prie de m'excusez, je m'en depeche aujordhui, pas de temps pour le traduction de ordinateur

Jack, if the peafowl is split to the black shoulder pattern and to the midnight color, and if the same peafowl has white eyes, there are perhaps a number of choices for how to write the formula for that peafowl if we do not know which version of the white eye gene it carries, or how many copies of the white eye gene (one or two) that this peafowl has in its genotype.

I think Augered in would have you write it something like this:

IB/M:BS/Nwing:WE/WE

We put the gene pairs (the alternatives for that gene trait) together, with a / slash between them, then a : colon, and followed by the next gene pair.

But in this case, I don't know exactly how to write the WE gene pair, whether to write WE or WEsp (the variant WE gene) or perhaps both (one of each), or perhaps only one WE gene (which one?) and a letter N to indicate eyes colored normally.

I have lost a lot of posts lately, so I will translate in the following post. Please excuse my errors, I am hurried today, and do not have time for the computer translators.

 

[AugeredIn]

thank you I understood cons I have a problem with MIdnigt White Eyed Split Blackshoulder :

IB/M/We: BS/M/We ????????

Possible combination ?????

IB/M/BS/We
IIB/BS/We
IB/M/We
IB/We
M/BS//We
M/We
BS/We

?????????

Midnight White Eye split Black Shoulder would be : M/M:We/We:BS/Nw (This would be normal white eye not silver pied).

The combinations of inheritance would be :

M:We:BS
M:We:Nw

There is really no need to include the duplicates.

 

[AugeredIn]

Jack, if the peafowl is split to the black shoulder pattern and to the midnight color, and if the same peafowl has white eyes, there are perhaps a number of choices for how to write the formula for that peafowl if we do not know which version of the white eye gene it carries, or how many copies of the white eye gene (one or two) that this peafowl has in its genotype.

I think Augered in would have you write it something like this:

IB/M:BS/Nwing:WE/WE

We put the gene pairs (the alternatives for that gene trait) together, with a / slash between them, then a : colon, and followed by the next gene pair.

But in this case, I don't know exactly how to write the WE gene pair, whether to write WE or WEsp (the variant WE gene) or perhaps both (one of each), or perhaps only one WE gene (which one?) and a letter N to indicate eyes colored normally.

I have lost a lot of posts lately, so I will translate in the following post. Please excuse my errors, I am hurried today, and do not have time for the computer translators.

I wasn't sure he was talking about split midnight or midnight or whether he was talking about a crossing when he listed: IB/M/We: BS/M/We ????????

All of your post looks correct as well.

 

[Garden Peas]

I wasn't sure he was talking about split midnight or midnight or whether he was talking about a crossing when he listed: IB/M/We: BS/M/We ????????

All of your post looks correct as well.

Oh goodness, I don't know.... rereading his post, it could be? He was talking about a split blackshoulder split midnight in the previous series of posts, and I have no clue about which WE genes. I assume he means double factor, plain WE, but I am guessing.

Perhaps we need to ask for clarification? And I am so not clear on what bird he is breeding to... I just assumed he was asking what would be the genetic contribution from this single parent.

The linguistic issues are challenging. I've been almost in tears after spending a bunch of time getting something right and then losing a long post... sounds stupid, but it's really frustrating when it eats something that takes a long time to write correctly, and my French is about 30 years out of date.