So dissapointing....and rude!

[Skyesrocket]

You usually can not count on someone to show up so people tend to usually give away to the first one to show up.

Yeah I see reposts for pets quite a bit due to no-shows.
Good Luck on your search. I hope you find the perfect dog for you!​

 

[redhen]

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I agree,...
I would have been hurt too... but in the end, it was her dog to give away to who she wanted to.
Just keep looking... and dont expect to find a free pure bred basset.... you may have to pay "something" for a pure one.... just how it is.
Also....did you even see these pups.... i can almost bet they wernt pure bred...or she would have sold them for"something"...
Just keep looking.... the right one will come along...

 

[redhen]

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I agree! AKC can be a joke..IMO..
Heres my AKC Saint Bernard, Daisy Mae..
Now, i know shes cute as a button...

But she surely isnt a PURE Saint.... or if she is..shes a VERY low quality Saint...
So... Yeah... AKC... Whoopie doo!

 

[ChickenScratchin]

As a breeder (who uses AKC), I'll say this: You are MORE likely to get a pure bred dog from an AKC/CKC (Canadian, not Cont'l) breeder than you are from someone else. But it's not a guarantee of breed or health. However, if you have an issue that relates to breed or ancestry, you at least have an avenue to address the issue with AKC. If you contact them with your complaint, they WILL look into it (if you registered the dog.) And an AKC/CKC breeder is more likely to be established in their breeding business, which means they will at least still be there if you have problems.

That said, the quality of the dog has more to do with the breeder than the registration. A responsible and ethical breeder will only breed stock that they believe to be sound and of good quality for the purpose (whether pet or show.) Someone who does not use a reputable national registry can be responsible; just as someone who DOES use a national registry can be irresponsible or unethical. It is simply a tool you can use in determining who to buy from, but it's not the only tool. While the dog may be pure bred, that by no means indicates that it is healthy or sound. Plenty of pure bred dogs have health or other issues. And it's more a matter of finding a responsible and knowledgeable breeder who is in it for the right reasons than any registration. They will be trying to produce quality dogs to the best of their ability.

As this relates to the OP: Ultimately, you should get a dog from someone that knows about the animal and will provide you with a dog that meets your needs (and makes an attempt to ensure you can meet the animal's needs.) And someone offering a "pure bred" puppy (that they bred) for free in the paper isn't that person. Even a reasonably knowledgeable and responsible hobby breeder cannot offer a healthy pure bred puppy for free, because breeding dogs is not a cheap business/hobby. It costs a lot of money to take care of the animals properly - vets cost money, food costs money, and quality breeding stock costs money. So anyone who knows what they're doing and is breeding quality animals and taking good care of them HAS to charge money for the puppies, unless they're independently wealthy.

Do research, ask a lot of questions, and be reasonable in your expectations. Adding a member to your family is a big commitment, not to be taken lightly.

 

[kstaven]

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what she said!

sorry, couldn't really type on my phone earlier. Canadian Kennel Club is an excellent registry. ConKC is a scam, one of several in the US. I'm sure that Canada has a few of those as well. Sadly, most of the people in the market for puppies don't know the difference.

SOOOO GLAD I have the habit of reading the whole thread before posting. With the first posts I assumed it was a slam of Canadian Kennel Club registry also.

 

[carolinagirl58]

Gotta sort of wonder if the CKC didn't chose their name JUST to cause this sort of confusion? Canadian Kennel Club has been around a long time and is a reputable registry. Continental Kennel club was started for puppy mill folks. You can register "designer dogs" ....Also known as Mutts, with them. AKC registration alone really does not mean much either though. You have to go with a reputable AKC breeder, with reputable being the key word.

 

[dainerra]

yes, AKC isn't a definition of quality for sure. It's just a means of keeping track of the paperwork on the dog. The quality of the dogs rest entirely on the breeder. Sure, some will fake paperwork or breed low-quality dogs just because they are registered. On the dog groups I am a member of, you'd be amazed (or not!) at the amount of people who think that just because a dog has papers that it should automatically be bred. Every litter, no matter how great the parents, is going to have pups that are a little less great - maybe the ears aren't quite right or maybe they've got a pale nose or maybe even a couple missing teeth. The problem comes when people who bought THOSE pups say "oh, but she has papers" So they have a litter, then one of THOSE pups have a litter. Of course AKC will register those pups as long as both parents have papers because that is what a registry does - the paperwork. In the end, you can end up with a dog that is barely recognizable as a basset.

The ConKC on the other hand, you sign a paper saying "yep, this dog is a basset" and they will send you paperwork registering the dog as a basset. Then you can breed that dog and sell the pups as "CKC registered" and a lot of people don't have any idea what that means, other than "Oh the dog has papers"

Now, the AKC does have a PALS program for mixed breed dogs and an ILP for dogs that are pretty certain to be a certain breed. I don't know if they still have the ILP, since they started the mixed breed registry, but it allowed you to register an unpapered dog as the breed that it was. BUT you had to send in photos from several angles and other paperwork to be approved that, yes, this dog was most likely a basset. Most important, it required proof that the animal was spayed/neutered. Then you were allowed to enter your dog in agility or obedience, anything but conformation.

One of the things about a GOOD breeder is that they will ask you just as many questions as you ask them, if not more. They won't just show you a litter of dogs and say "pick one." They will want to know your activity level, how long your home, do you plan to do obedience, do you have a fence, and on and on. They will then tell you which pups will fit in with your lifestyle. They might even say "sorry, none of these pups will work for you" and send you home. They might even advise that a basset PERIOD isn't the right dog for you - the most important thing is that they want to match the pup and owner to help make sure this dog has a home forever.

 

[Nicole01]

I'm so very sorry.

. We had the same thing happen to us for a dog we were going to rescue. The owner who had her dog was moving and needed a home for her dog. We got in contact with her and was going to meet her and the dog the following week. She called the day we were suppose to meet and said she let someone else pick the dog up already. It was heartbreaking for us and the kids! We were willing to take on a dog with a few health problems.

The next day I saw an Australian Shepherd at the humane society and we brought her home. We are very happy with the Aussie.

 

[welsummerchicks]

The puppy was free, and I don't think you had any right to talk to the woman like that and lecture her about 'the responsible thing to do'. I think that was incredibly rude. When you're giving away puppies for free, the RESPONSIBLE thing to do is find good homes for them, and that means choosing from people who show up and can be checked over to see if they look like they'll give the pup a good home, and who show they really are interested by showing up.

You're trying to get a purebred dog for free, rather than pay for it, and I think to do that, you're going to need to be a little bit more respectful and polite - AND a little more gracious when it doesn't work out. You probably just blew your chance to get a puppy from any of the basset breeders in your area. If you'd been nice about it, you'd probably have gotten a pup of an off color or some thing like that, from a friend of hers.

If you wanted the puppy so bad, you could have been there while the other lady was picking out her puppy and taken the other one, and you could of been more polite.

If I was giving away free purebred basset puppies, I would be getting about a hundred calls a day, most of them from people who were no more likely to take one of the puppies than Adam's goat was to run for president. The person who shows up first and looks okay, gets the puppy.

'I'm sorry to hear the puppy is already taken. Are you going to breed any more litters this year,or do you know any other basset breeders who will? No? Well thank you any way, have a nice day'.

THAT is how you get what you want. Not by being rude. Remember: it's a small world.

'Oh my GOSh mary this lady called me up, didn't even want to come out, and then calls back out of the blue all mad because the puppy was already chosen'.

Things look an awful lot different from the other side of the fence!

 

[bagendhens]

i agree with eveyone else...
first the puppy owner was within every right to not get thiws puppy back and im actually quite appaled that youd even suggest it, its one thing if youd put a deposit down on the pup, but this was a FREE dog, you had no investment into the animal sure you bought stuff for it but if you see an animal for free and you realy want it you find a way to get thee first because while it may not be right, it is very much first come first serve.

secondly your looking for a pure bred basset with everything you love about the basset breed and your looking for the cheapest option...
your gonna be in for a nasty shock.

all arguing about registration aside the ONLY way you know your getting a pure bred dog is to have papers on that dog.
the only way to know your getting a GOOd example of the breed is if the parents are a good example of the breed
the only way to know if the parents are a good example of the breed is if the parents have been properly shown in conformation or used for the job they were designed for (ie are form hunting lines. they also need various health testing...

would i pay an extra $500 for a peice of paper that says AKC HELL NO!

would i pay an extra $500 for a puppy from parents who have OFA scores, whos breeder is of the responsible kind, who cares about where the pups go, and has contract that if you cant keep the pup they take it back, a breeder who provideds good health contracts (that last the LIFE of the dog) and a breeder who is there through the entire life of the dog should you have questions concerns ect.

akc, ContKC, CKC, apri i dont care about the registry when im looking for a pup...
what im looking for is good looking parents (by that i mean to my eye they look like the breed im buying)
a breeder who has more than just money on their mind
im looking for BOTH parents to have at the very minimum OFA scores.

whether your looking for a show dog or a pet it doesnt matter, PRICE shopping is a good way to find yourself paying ALOT of money down the line when your dog needs double knee or hip replacments, or as is common in bassets, eye surgery to correct the undercurling of the eyelashes, or you have to have your dog put to sleep because the hips are so bad its effecting the spine and your dog can no longer walk...
instead of price shopping, learn what a godo breeder is and isnt...
again i dont care about registry, someone could make theire own and i wouldnt care...
but i do want to see those parents proven somehow and i want at the very minimum an OFA score.