Some questions on hatching eggs

my incubator recovers very fast and maybe yours does too.you are assuming everyones incubator recovers fast when you say its ok to open incubator during lockdown.
I don't assume that. But you are spouting myths that I personally have disproven hundreds of times.

why teach people new to incubating bad habits?

Usually new folks ask for help after they've already started assisting. We try to minimize the damage and prepare for better future experiences.
I know there is no changing your mind, as I have my firm beliefs as well. So let's just agree to disagree.
 
why teach people new to incubating bad habits?
Teach them all the aspects of hatching and assisting, good and bad....
...because things are not black and white.

I understand your frustration, and you've made some good points, but get over it...
....no sense in belaboring something you can't control or change.
 
90% of chicks that survive assited hatched would of batched successfully on there own.100% of chicks that die because people assited to early should of been left alone.Assisting with hatch shouldnt even be considered till day 22 and probably not attempted till day 23.Chicks have enough air and food to survive minimum 24 days in shell.There is no reason to open incubator between days 18 to 22 it does no good.Why would you want to shock chicks with temp and humidity drop or changing egg position.If you dont pick at shell to make pip hole bigger then you dont need to add coconut oil.
My incubator takes 48 seconds to get back to optimum temp.That isnt the point opening incubator to inspect egg for whatever reason maybe only takes couple minutes your still going to cause drop of couple degrees in chick body temp that is still enough affect chicks hatching process.The whole point of incubator is to create a fixed enviroment with consistent temp and humidity every time incubator is opened that environment is disrupted.Not as big of deal when egg shells are intact but once pip hole has been made that change in environment is magnified because chick is exposed with pip hole.
As @WVduckchick said, and the point I was making is that it's not a completely black and white subject! I am not going to argue about who is 'correct' as I don't believe there is a single correct procedure....also pretty sure it's against the BYC rules!
I think you're opinions would be better in their own thread and not here too, maybe I didn't get that across properly in my initial response. I am sure you will get lots of people in support of what you do. But there are also people who won't, and that's okay! You can quote statistics at me but can you give me a percentage of how many chicks hatch perfectly fine without any need for assistance in an incubator that has been opened during the latter stages, even after pip? Some incubators need to be opened to add water for the humidity, it doesn't mean that the whole hatch is doomed the second you open the lid and comments like yours can put new hatchers in a horrible position as to whether they open or not. I think if you start a new thread to share you concerns then you should also offer guidance on what to do to minimise risk if opening the Incubator is unavoidable.
 
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I don't assume that. But you are spouting myths that I personally have disproven hundreds of times.

sorry if i dont think you have disproven anything

Usually new folks ask for help after they've already started assisting. We try to minimize the damage and prepare for better future experiences.
I know there is no changing your mind, as I have my firm beliefs as well. So let's just agree to disagree.
My post was to help people before they get to point where they need help with assisting hatch.The only myth is that assisting hatch save chicks lives.Assisting hatches kills more than ot saves.That is not a myth its a fact.
 
Here's the picture, the two gray ones are growing lavender feathers and their from an Americana so I assume lavender Americanas! :celebratethe other ones are golden laced wyandott and golden laced wyandott/white rock!:wee
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What is the best way to help the chick that's piping but the shell is too strong?

I am setting some Black & Blue Marans. Known for tough shells.
 
What is the best way to help the chick that's piping but the shell is too strong?

I am setting some Black & Blue Marans. Known for tough shells.

Usually the tougher shells create tougher birds. The biggest issue with Marans is sufficient moisture loss. Keep your humidity as low as possible. They should hatch fine without assistance.
 

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