I apologize that this is so long, but it's a topic that is near to my heart.
1rst on spanking -
I got spankings my entire childhood. From what I have been told by the folks this was the case even when I was a toddler, though I don't remember that. Thus I think it does no harm to spank a child, even at that age. When I was older the spankings continued. Some times they were from mom, sometimes from dad. My folks were always united on this decision, and on the offenses that merited spanking. They never spanked in anger. It always involved a process like this -
I was told, "Go to your room and consider what you have done, and the reasons why you should not have done this."
This time was used by my parents to cool off, and cement in their minds the purpose of spanking. They never spanked in anger. Then I was called into their room, not spanked in front of my siblings, as this can be demoralizing. Before the spanking a discussion ensued as to what I had came up with while in my room,and what their reasoning was behind the discipline. This usually invovled biblical principles, i.e reasons what I did was wrong/spare the rod - spoil the child.
I think I profited from this process.
As to the time out, I feel that this is entirely appropriate.
I have a ten year old daughter. My ex wife and I did not see eye to eye on discipline. We split up when my daughter was almost three. This was not the major factor in our split, the major factor was some "indescretions" on my wifes part.
While we were together the ex would let my Daughter run around the(insert place) like a little banshee. I would step in and try appropriate discipline, like scolding, time out what ever. Being a male, and having a girl I did not feel comfortable spanking her in todays society, but the discipline was there never the less. This always ended up in an arguement over child rearing techniques, basicly my techniques as she really did not have any. After the split, things changed. I was finally free to do my DUTY, and TEACH my child. She would be sent to her room with a scolding. This was severe enough for her, as she would usually be very upset with the fact that she had disappointed me and was getting scolded and would cry. Most of the time she would throw a fit, and start crying, the usual. After a few minutes I would go to reteieve her. If she was still throwing her little crying fit I would tell her she was free to come out, WHEN SHE WAS READY TO ACT RIGHT AND KNOCK IT OF WITH THE TANTRUM. A few minutes later she would dry it up, come out of her room, and apologize. This was always followed up by big hugs lots of love. As I stated she is ten now, and very well behaved.
Be aware that kids, even young ones can tell the difference between the two styles I have mentioned. My ex and I share placement 50/50. She is with the ex one week, and me the next. I can already see that my daughter has far more respect for me than her mom, though I never foster disrespect for her mother. I encourage her to respect her mom, simply because she is her mom. This is hard to do, because her mom is still the same way, but I feel it is necassary because she is her mother. That being said I know that she does not really respct her mother as she does me due to things that my duaghter alliterates. She talks of her mothers inconsistancies.
She know she can get away with certain things with her mom that she herself knows are wrong. She talks of things that her mom does get after her about. These things are usually trivial, and she states it that way. She realizes that she is getting in trouble for things that simply irritate my ex, not things that are important, and that the important things are not addressed. When my ex, who was a spoiled child and still is a spoiled adult, acts out with me my daughter asks me " Why does mom have to act that way?"
Don't think that a young child doesn't pick up on these things. Do start young TEACHING your child at a young age.
Discipline = teaching.
The mother that you spoke of who allowed her child to "thrash" his room while he was on time out is teaching that kid that he can do what ever he wants, whenever he wants, and if some one trys to stop him he can get his way by throwing a collosul fit.
He will be lucky if he doesn't end up in prison. If he doesn't, he will definatly be some one no one wants to be around.