soybean meal..

[Teach97]

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actually more than you would probably guess...

 

[foux003]

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I think that is way to much but I don't know about the heated meal that you guys are talking about. When I worked at the feed mill we would run whole soy beans through the hammer mill and make our own meal. We went by recommendations made by the livestock specialist and 1 to 2 is way to much soy bean. As I remember it was somewhere in the 50 to 60 % protein range.
foux003

 

[Wildflower_VA]

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I am neither a 'crat or a holistic herbalist, but I don't feed any soy by-products. My question to you is if you fully approve of the way Tyson, Perdue, et al, raise and feed their birds, why do you even bother to raise your own chickens? If grocery store meat birds and eggs are so great, why not just buy them there? It seems to your way of thinking that they hold the holy grail of what is proper to feed livestock.

My total reason to raise my own chickens is to improve on the taste and nutrition of what comes from Tyson and Perdue (I live in the heartland of Tyson and Perdue factory farms). Why would I follow their example of what to feed my chickens? I grew up on a farm and remember what real chicken tastes like and what a healthy egg looks and tastes like, and you can't find either in a grocery store. The reason they have to shoot up all poultry with a 15% solution of something is to give it some taste. Salt and sugar are cheaper than feeding the poultry the good stuff while they are raising them.

 

[Chris09]

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*The Soy Police*



Chris

 

[Mac in Wisco]

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So what do you feed them?

Corn? Oh my... Here comes the corn police. You know that horrid stuff is already in everything you eat, right?

Feather and bone meal? How dare you...

Fish meal? Over fishing the oceans for menhaden is not sustainable whatsoever.

 

[Teach97]

wish I had easy access to fish meal here...

 

[Wildflower_VA]

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So what do you feed them?

Corn? Oh my... Here comes the corn police. You know that horrid stuff is already in everything you eat, right?

Feather and bone meal? How dare you...

Fish meal? Over fishing the oceans for menhaden is not sustainable whatsoever.

Not that it actually matters what I feed instead of soy, here is what I feed my chickens until they start laying. I purchase it locally from a trusted source. My choice not to feed soy has nothing to do with "green ecology." My choice to refrain from feeding soy still does not make me "the holistic herbalists and the 'crats from the food scare industry."


This the same 19% blend as our Broiler Feed, but ground finer for baby chicks. We suggest soy-free Starter Feed for the first 2-3 weeks of the feeding cycle. Then switch to our soy-free Broiler Feed. The larger pieces of grain in our feed should stimulate development of the gizzard and help produce healthier adult birds. The peeps never stop when your birds get Countryside Organic Poultry Starter Feed.

Crude protein, minimum..............................................19.00%
Crude fat, minimum.......................................................2.00%
Crude fiber, maximum...................................................6.00%

INGREDIENTS
Organic Field Peas, Organic Corn, Organic Wheat, Organic Oats, Fish Meal, Organic Rice Bran, Organic Alfalfa Meal, Organic Flaxseed, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Silico Aluminate, Dried Organic Kelp, Dicalcium Phosphate, Salt, Yeast Culture, Roughage Product (organic wheat middlings), Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Choline Chloride, Menadione Nicotinamide Bisulfite Complex, D-Calcium Pantothenic Acid, Niacin Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Manganese Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Dried Aspergillus oryzae Fermentation Extract, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, Dried fermentation product of Lactobacillus acidophilus, Dried fermentation product of Lactobacillus casei, , Dried fermentation product of Lactobacillus plantarum, Dried fermentation product of Enterococcus faecium, Dried fermentation product of Bacillus coagulans, Dried fermentation product of Bacillus licheniformis, and Dried fermentation product of Bacillus subtilis.

FEEDING DIRECTIONS

Feed to baby chicks until 4 or 5 weeks of age, then begin feeding Countryside’s Organic Soy-Free Broiler Feed. Provide clean, fresh water at all times.


Certified organic by
Global Organic Alliance, Inc.

 

[Wildflower_VA]

P.S. The label lists out all the added supplements, but what it actually is is Icelandic Thorvin kelp and Fertrell Poultry Nutri-Balancer.

 

[Myles]

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I am neither a 'crat or a holistic herbalist, but I don't feed any soy by-products. My question to you is if you fully approve of the way Tyson, Perdue, et al, raise and feed their birds, why do you even bother to raise your own chickens? If grocery store meat birds and eggs are so great, why not just buy them there? It seems to your way of thinking that they hold the holy grail of what is proper to feed livestock.

My total reason to raise my own chickens is to improve on the taste and nutrition of what comes from Tyson and Perdue (I live in the heartland of Tyson and Perdue factory farms). Why would I follow their example of what to feed my chickens? I grew up on a farm and remember what real chicken tastes like and what a healthy egg looks and tastes like, and you can't find either in a grocery store. The reason they have to shoot up all poultry with a 15% solution of something is to give it some taste. Salt and sugar are cheaper than feeding the poultry the good stuff while they are raising them.

I was only asking if and how much soy meal I could/should use.

 

[Wildflower_VA]

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I am neither a 'crat or a holistic herbalist, but I don't feed any soy by-products. My question to you is if you fully approve of the way Tyson, Perdue, et al, raise and feed their birds, why do you even bother to raise your own chickens? If grocery store meat birds and eggs are so great, why not just buy them there? It seems to your way of thinking that they hold the holy grail of what is proper to feed livestock.

My total reason to raise my own chickens is to improve on the taste and nutrition of what comes from Tyson and Perdue (I live in the heartland of Tyson and Perdue factory farms). Why would I follow their example of what to feed my chickens? I grew up on a farm and remember what real chicken tastes like and what a healthy egg looks and tastes like, and you can't find either in a grocery store. The reason they have to shoot up all poultry with a 15% solution of something is to give it some taste. Salt and sugar are cheaper than feeding the poultry the good stuff while they are raising them.

I was only asking if and how much soy meal I could/should use.

I know what you were asking. What you feed your chicks is up to you, entirely. My response to Neil Grassbaugh was because of his implication that anyone who chooses not to feed soy is somehow one of those snarky names he called us. Like we couldn't possibly have done in-depth research to come to our own conclusions while being a Republican farm girl (me). I don't think that my way is the only way and that anyone who would dare disagree should be called names. Sorry you got caught up in that little clash.