SSS...and then bury it deeper? Did anyone see this??

[vfem]

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You sleigh me!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't care, if the dog is not well kept in a safe place, you don't care enough about the animal!

If my dog was shot for getting out and doing that, serves her right for getting into trouble and not coming home when called.

 

[ivan3]

chickenriot wrote: Dogs (especially in the country) get loose sometimes and with a prey animal like chickens you need to expect the unexpected. (Expect the worst and hope for the best and you won't be disappointed)

How is this any different than a hawk swooping down and getting one of them ?

Hawks, like loose dogs, are sometimes struck by cars (hawks less frequently). Since our road was paved I've had to put down two terribly injured dogs - torn-up, dehydrated, and dying slowly in the ditches. One would think the owners of such animals would thank those poultry owners who put their chicken killing vermin down, humanely, with a couple of well placed shots.

We have few neighbors, but all are well aware that we both trap and poison and simply don't tolerate vermin on this property. Our first turkey run fencing (6ft. chicken wire) was taken out by a dog spooked ungulate - used to like to chase the deer through our woods - one cleared the east side fencing and rushed right through the west side fencing without pause; that particular pack of Chows is long gone (switched to 6ft. 1x2 welded wire fencing - somewhat better, but certainly not `deer-proof').

If we don't know who the owner is we SSS. If we do know who the owner is we immediately call the sheriff, complain that the dog(s) attempted to attack us, file a nuisance animal complaint and have the owner come over to pick up the carcasses (I don't ask for reimbursement for the bullets, but I'll be darned if I waste my time burying/hauling off the result of the owner's irresponsible behavior).​

 

[WalkingWolf]

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HAHAHAHA ... sorry, this is a serious thread I know, but really? My Lab killed 5 chickens that belonged to my neighbor but he has yet to maul a child, and that has been over a year ago.
Rather than being a horses' behind and shooting my predator / hunting dog, my neighbor fixed his fence so his chickens would stop coming into my yard.

When I was a kid we had an old hound / GSD mix that jumped the fence and killed some pet rabbits - again, he wasn't shot, but the rabbit owner was compensated. Know what? we still get along 20 some odd years later. If he had shot my dog I would just keep driving when I saw his pets by the road, but today I stopped and scooped up his yappy little boston terrier before it became road mush. Even though my old dog roamed free for 15 years, he never attacked a person or another animal after the rabbits (he had tags and was friendly, easy to catch- which is how the rabbit guy caught him - , so I feel pretty sure someone would have called!).

Dogs that kill chickens attack children

ETA - I am by no means advocating letting dogs roam at large. I am just saying killing a flapping bird is not = to attacking a child.

I was attacked and severely injured as a child by a stray dog that had killed a chicken on my uncles farm. My uncle shot and killed the dog and luckily for me it did not have rabies. Your reply was the most ignorant I have heard yet, many, many children are maimed by somebody's family pet that when loose become a predator and will kill prey. Children are often seen as prey by predators as prey. I wonder if you find children maimed funny... DO YOU?

BTW I spent what seemed like an eternity for me as a child in intensive care recovering from my wounds. Luckily we lived where there was a teaching hospital that was the cutting edge of plastic surgery at the time. Come on laugh it up HeHeHe!

 

[bturbo87]

following protection of life and property, and having my tires slashed, id be camped out on the front porch with the twelve gauge, the owner can lay in a shallow grave next to his darn dog. now before i had chickens, and i was protecting just the family, i used a paintball gun filled with the pepperspray paintballs that police use for riot control, the dog runs away and the family gets a nice dose of pepperspray when the pet theyre beloved animal, and learn to keep them penned up quick. now that i have chickens, not only are they pets as well, but a second form of income/food for my family, and i will protect them just the same. old saying i saw somewhere " this house is protected by god and a gun, and you might meet both if you come in uninvited" goes for the house as well as the pets, if someone breaks into my house at night they meet the 45 no questions asked, your dog wants to eat my chickens, sorry buddy but unless he can out run 650 feet per second, he better be wearing kevlar... alright im off my soapbox for now...

 

[rancher hicks]

Certainly there are lots of OP's about this situation and as for being flamed here goes.

The Apostle Paul wrote, "Everything is lawful but not everything is expedient." It seems to me the same applies here.

Sure it was lawful to shoot the dog, no question about that, but was it expedient? Advantageous?

I wouldn't say so. Now you've got slashed tires and enemies not only of the neighbors but others who feel the shooter is wrong. You've got a lawsuit and legal fees that will definitely exceed the price of the dog and chickens combined.

Most certainly there are circumstances to this situation that are left out. Such as, "was this the first time this dog has attacked this mans chickens?" "Where was the proof there were even any dead chickens?" "where was the proof this dog was the culprit?" "If this man knew it was legal to shoot the dog, why didn't he call the sheriff and show the sheriff the damage and avoid the trouble of burying the dog?" ( I don't believe any girl buried this dog).

Personally I'm all for second chances and I can't blame anyone for shooting a dog for attacking their chickens but I can blame them for hiding the fact if it's legal to do so. Especially when there is no reason to do so. I suspect this man wasn't sure at all whether "this" dog was the culprit, otherwise he wouldn't have felt the need to hide the fact that he shot the dog.

A real man stands up for what he believes is right, he doesn't bury it!

Wishing you all the best

Rancher

 

[HLAC]

Wasn't there a news story on here just last week about a guy who killed a dog that was killing his livestock, and when he told the dog owner.... the dog owner had the guy charged with animal cruelty?

They did charge him.

You're darned if you do and darned if you don't.


If I find a dog trying to kill my chickens.... I'm not waiting until it kills one. And it's up to me if I try and run it off or just shoot it on the spot. Not the dog owner. The dog owner lost their say as soon as their animal was out of their control and came onto my property.

 

[herfrds]

Milton I remember that news story out west somewhere, some road rage guy threw a dog out in the road. People raised over $100,000.00 reward to find this guy.
But they couldn't raise over $25,000.00 to find the murderer of a 5 year old child.

That is the mentality of people now a days. They want animals to have more rights and be considered better then a human life.
Sorry I got off the topic.

As for SSS it worked the best when wolves were reintroduced out here and were killing livestock and ranchers were told there was nothing they could do about it. Not even do a warning shot.


As for this guy shooting the dog, good for him. Should have just left it lay where it fell. If it was shot in the street the dog was probably heading for home, but he may have also been shot once already and finished off.
It still does not give his neighbor a right to assault him with pliers. A hit just right to the head with a blunt object can be fatal. Neighbor would have been up for murder then.
Slashing the tires is an act of vandalism.
Should watch for poison being put out for his birds.

 

[Boyd]

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there was another story where a chicken owner shot a neighborhood dog. He called the neighbor to come over to collect his dog. As he opened the door the dog's owner shot him in the head. That's why sometimes the last S is EXPEDIENT

 

[chickenpiedpiper]

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there was another story where a chicken owner shot a neighborhood dog. He called the neighbor to come over to collect his dog. As he opened the door the dog's owner shot him in the head. That's why sometimes the last S is EXPEDIENT

And this would be why you dont call the neighbor, you call the police, let them come and collect the dog and see the damage/dead and then they go and do thier jobs by bringing the dog to the owners. They are trained to deal with these people, and may even choose to add a few tickets, like 'dog at large' or more. they can also present your bill for damages/birds, and make the owner realize thier responsibilities as responsible pet owners.

Let the police handle the neighbors.

 

[schellie69]

sometimes you have to be careful because in some states and city's chickens are not seen as livestock there fore you can not kill a dog that is killing your chickens. you have to know the wording of the law and if you do shoot a dog maybe it is better to sss just for the sake of all involved.