Stolen Horse--Man is BACK in jail!

I want to run over there and get MY horse back. But I know that if I did, I would be putting myself and others in danger. I know nothing of this man but his nephew apparently has assault and battery charges against him, at least that's what I was told.

They could do any number of things to me, the horse or my family members. I will not put them into anything that could harm any of them. I'm not patient...just trying to think things through.

Daggum it. I want to be rash.
 
Unfortunately, this is a civil suit. As long as it started with a contract, any breech is a civil situation. You need to file suit ASAP, before the horse disappears for good. The minute the suit is filed and adjudicated, any violation will now be enforced by the courts.
 
I'm sorry this has been such a mess for you RoPo
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Hopefully it all miraculously works out and you get your gelding back very soon!
 
All I can say is that I'm still working with the ranger. I'm calling him again tomorrow to see what he says about taking this to the media. A sheriff that I have never spoken with all of a sudden states that he was the one who took my report, when I went there and wrote down the name of the deputy I gave my report to, who signed the report and my boyfriend watched the entire process.

Anyway, I'm going to make sure taking this to the local media will not interfere with the ranger's investigation.


thanks for sticking with me all...needless to say I'm getting a bit discouraged and am exhausted. Thanks again for trying to keep up with me and the developments.
 
Papers are proof of ownership when the person cannot provide a bill of sale or any proof they bought the horse, the owner has reported the horse stolen (which should have been done if it hasn't), and you can prove the horse is the same one as on the papers. If you had papers on a horse and it was taken from your pasture one night then as soon as that horse was found no matter how many times it had been sold so long as it can be identified as the same horse without question you still own it. The papers and lack of bill of sale from the owner on record of the papers along with a report it was stolen at the time proves ownership and theft. That's one of the major points of having registration papers. Proving a horse is yours.

This actually somewhat came up but on a more minor issue. I gave 2 horses to a friend and gave her the papers with filled out transfers. She never sent them in and the horses remained in my name the past 2 years. She loses the transfers. There is now no proof I gave the horses to her. I still hold the papers. She had them on leased land. Then she ended up going through a divorce and not paying as much attention to the horses while the land owner decided to claim them as his and give them to someone else. She had no proof of ownership and couldn't get them back. I instantly got them back. They were in my name. There was no record of bill of sale and they were obviously the horses on the papers. After they were moved without authorization I reported them stolen. The police took the papers, went to look at the horses, and under my authorization and with new transfers filled out gave the horses back to my friend. It's really not that difficult.... Papers, a report of the horse being stolen, and no bill of sale should be more than enough to prove ownership. The lease and proof of attempts to contact the lessee just seals the deal. There is no legal difficulty here. This is just a case of the authorities being lazy and not wanting to deal with it.
 
Did you speak to the ranger about doing a legal repossession like Walking Wolf suggested? I'd hire him off duty and get a repo guy and go get your horse. The ranger should be able to find out where this guy is since the DA people know him.

Oh and the issues with the report that "didn't exist" and who did or didn't do their job at the DA are completely separate than a legal repossession of your property.
 
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