Surviving Minnesota!

[Cebarmlds]

BC hasn't been on lately, hope everything is going alright.

 

[jerryse]

Morning . Got gifted 3 halloween pumpkins . So half of one in the oven for chicken treats .

 

[duluthralphie]

I would assume BC is busy with Holidays. Hopefully!


I saw this while perusing the news. It made my blood boil for a few hours...

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/florida-man-accused-of-drowning-raccoon


If you live in a place that you cannot discharge a firearms. What do you do?

Even f you can shoot into a cage it is dangerous. Bullets can miss and ricochet.

I am sure had he poked knife or spear through the live trap to kill the raccoon, it would have taken longer and been crueler. I doubt the neighbor would be happy to see him stone it to death.

Letting it out to climb up on a scaffold so you could get a noose around its neck could be difficult or impossible and it still had teeth to bite with...

I suppose you could use a hammer to knock the teeth out, a pliers to pull the claws off and then strapped it to a gurney and given it a lethal injection, if the state of Florida would give up the stuff they use to kill people in cages....

But then the goodhearted kindly PETA lady neighbor might have been offended by the dental and fingernail work done to protect the chicken owner...

This really puts the chicken owner in a pickle, what does he do?


It is unrealistic to think the Animal Shelter people will dispatch a raccoon in a trap..... And if they let it go, the raccoon is going to be smarter and not get caught in a trap again...Forcing someone to illegally discharge a weapon to protect his chickens....

Does Florida have a minimum number of times a raccoon can kill chickens and invade a persons house before it gets the death sentence?

 

[duluthralphie]

Morning . Got gifted 3 halloween pumpkins . So half of one in the oven for chicken treats .

Do you always bake them for the birds? Mine just go out to the garden and help themselves...little buggers.

 

[BantyChooks]

I would assume BC is busy with Holidays. Hopefully!


I saw this while perusing the news. It made my blood boil for a few hours...

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/florida-man-accused-of-drowning-raccoon


If you live in a place that you cannot discharge a firearms. What do you do?

Even f you can shoot into a cage it is dangerous. Bullets can miss and ricochet.

I am sure had he poked knife or spear through the live trap to kill the raccoon, it would have taken longer and been crueler. I doubt the neighbor would be happy to see him stone it to death.

Letting it out to climb up on a scaffold so you could get a noose around its neck could be difficult or impossible and it still had teeth to bite with...

I suppose you could use a hammer to knock the teeth out, a pliers to pull the claws off and then strapped it to a gurney and given it a lethal injection, if the state of Florida would give up the stuff they use to kill people in cages....

But then the goodhearted kindly PETA lady neighbor might have been offended by the dental and fingernail work done to protect the chicken owner...

This really puts the chicken owner in a pickle, what does he do?


It is unrealistic to think the Animal Shelter people will dispatch a raccoon in a trap..... And if they let it go, the raccoon is going to be smarter and not get caught in a trap again...Forcing someone to illegally discharge a weapon to protect his chickens....

Does Florida have a minimum number of times a raccoon can kill chickens and invade a persons house before it gets the death sentence?

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/kill-a-racoon-go-to-jail.1208992/
Definitely over reacting on the cops' part.

 

[MNChickMom]

Good Morning Everyone. It's a windy one out there this morning. Nothing new to report.

 

[jerryse]

Do you always bake them for the birds? Mine just go out to the garden and help themselves...little buggers.

No not usually . They eat it faster if it is soft . Big temp drop today . So hard for them to finish if frozen .

FYI drowning sets for trapping are considered humane . Part of the humane trap standard that allows the USA to sell fur to other countries . Science proved it was comparable to Euthansia .

 

[BantyChooks]

Science proved it was comparable to Euthansia .

Do you know if the study/whatever's available online? I'd like to read it if it is.

 

[duluthralphie]

No not usually . They eat it faster if it is soft . Big temp drop today . So hard for them to finish if frozen .

FYI drowning sets for trapping are considered humane . Part of the humane trap standard that allows the USA to sell fur to other countries . Science proved it was comparable to Euthansia .

I had not idea about that. BUT I know way back in the 50's when my Grandpa taught me to trap, every set had to be a drowning set. Of course, A few would fight and get out. but 99% drowned. My grandpa was a little guy but failing to set a trap that would not drown would bring a lecture and hour lesson on how and why to do it.

He was a very quiet patient man and never raised his voice. BUT you knew when you had failed to meet his standards. I wish I could be half the man he was.

The only sets that were not drowning of course were fox, coyote and coon land traps. Those he insisted we check twice a day from a distance to keep our odors out of the area. When I was 7-8 and learning to trap he was already 70 and even then I had a hard time keeping up with him......I don't remember him having my aches and pains..

 

[jerryse]

Do you know if the study/whatever's available online? I'd like to read it if it is.

I tried to find it but could not find the details . I remember from back when it happened . My memory says the physiological changes were the same as euthanasia so humane .

edit to add big chess game . Anti people trying to outlaw trapping and trapping trying to keep markets open .