Sweet coop

[6Chickens1loner]

Can I use the product sweet coop for odor and diatomaceous earth at the same time in my chicken coop?

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

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We have filters in our lungs and maskss for that I have asthma too and dont were a mask and never had an attack it is not dangerous. Wear a mask.

Chickens don't wear masks.

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

You mean Sweet PDZ coop and stall refresher? You can but DE should not be used in the coop-it is an irritant to chicken's sensitive respiratory systems. I would skip it and just use the sweet PDZ.

 

[DobieLover]

You mean Sweet PDZ coop and stall refresher? You can but DE should not be used in the coop-it is an irritant to chicken's sensitive respiratory systems. I would skip it and just use the sweet PDZ.

And stick with the granular form, not powder.

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

Inhaling anything is not safe!

So why would you use DE in the chicken coop where your birds will stir it up and inhale it? I used to use it but I would have asthma attacks when I cleaned the coop so I did a little research and stopped using it. I know a lot of people like it but in the coop itself is not a good idea since birds' respiratory systems are much more sensitive than ours. Hence the old canary in a mine trick-the bird will be dead before the miners.

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

Curious what evidence you found?

Perhaps your Google-Fu is better than mine but I’ve tried finding evidence of birds dying from use of DE and haven’t found anything other than opinions without any actual science or perhaps an autopsy etc. to back it up.

I’m guessing it’s respirable crystalline silica content that people are referring to as the hazard, but food grade DE has the lower concentration than industrial grades and is a regulated product to be able to use that labeling. There’s a good amount of repairable crystalline silica in dirt and sand, yet people fill up their coops and dust baths with them. Maybe because DE is abrasive when dry? It’s ineffective with moisture and animals lungs are a moist environment…

I don’t go crazy and use a little bit of DE here and there and when I searched the topic, I easily found a scientific article where they specifically researched the effects of using DE inside and outside of chickens bodies and it definitely didn’t end up being a hazardous material around chickens

I was just looking it up for human use actually and it said it was harmful if inhaled because it is a mild abrasive. I think the effects show up over time. I used it for a while and none of my chickens dropped dead from it (that I'm aware of). I did have a couple sudden deaths but never sent them for necropsy. That was ten years ago or more. I haven't had a sudden death since but that doesn't mean DE killed my chickens. I just prefer not to use it if it could harm them since I also saw no benefits from it.

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

DE is kind of a hot topic on here-like ACV. Some people swear by it. I am not one of them. If you are concerned you can either start a thread asking for peoples' experiences or put it in the search bar and find numerous threads about it to help you make your decision.

 

[ValarieF]

DE is perfectly safe as long as you buy the food grade and not the granulars. I use it and first saturday lime.

 

[perkolator]

I did a little research and stopped using it

Curious what evidence you found?

Perhaps your Google-Fu is better than mine but I’ve tried finding evidence of birds dying from use of DE and haven’t found anything other than opinions without any actual science or perhaps an autopsy etc. to back it up.

I’m guessing it’s respirable crystalline silica content that people are referring to as the hazard, but food grade DE has the lower concentration than industrial grades and is a regulated product to be able to use that labeling. There’s a good amount of repairable crystalline silica in dirt and sand, yet people fill up their coops and dust baths with them. Maybe because DE is abrasive when dry? It’s ineffective with moisture and animals lungs are a moist environment…

I don’t go crazy and use a little bit of DE here and there and when I searched the topic, I easily found a scientific article where they specifically researched the effects of using DE inside and outside of chickens bodies and it definitely didn’t end up being a hazardous material around chickens

My opinion - all things are bad to breathe in. If using DE, also use it with common sense and don’t go crazy with it

 

[ChickyCh00k]

I won't comment on the safety of DE. Like BlindLemon said, it's a highly debated topic. All I know for sure is that you're not supposed to use it in your coop if you're doing the deep litter method (it interferes with the composting process). You can use Zeolite (Sweet Coop or PDZ) by itself for drying and deodorizing purposes.