Thanks so much Bogtown, this gives me another prospective on how to treat him. I am nervous about cutting into his face, he gets antsy and jerks around a lot. May have to break down and take him to vet. I would like to learn how to give an injectible as I don't know how. I do believe he needs a shot, he is not taking the meds in very well in his food or when I try to spoon it in to his beak. He is not wanting to eat his special foods I'm making him to build up his strength, he just wants to share it w/ hens. He is getting so stressed to be away or separated from his hens, so I am not keeping him in the house. You can take a chicken to water but you can't make him drink! LOL I have been giving him water w/ a clove of garlic and also the apple cider vinegar (2 waterers) But it's not looking any better.