swollen shut eyes, and foul smelling, running nose. Update post *50

[MuckyPuppy]

Oh wow, so sorry Farmerboy.

I don't know what the solution is because I have never heard of this before. Do you know how it got into your flock?

I am so glad I have already decided to have a closed flock if these are the kinds of things you can end up bringing home. I worry enough about anything wild birds may transmit. I chase them out of the yard while I wait to build my covered run.

 

[Matt1616]

Robin, they can actually do the MG test with a simple tracheal swab. I attached a link to Clemson University, look in "how is the disease diagnosed".

http://www.clemson.edu/public/lph/ahp/disease_links/images/mg.pdfw

 

[robin416]

Its been long enough now that I forget who I asked about this. But when I did ask it I was under the assumption that diagnosis was made with a swab, I was told no that it had to be done with a blood test and that it could kill the bird because of the quantity of blood being drawn.

So, is there a problem with false positives with the swab or is my state behind in new procedures?

 

[Farmerboy16]

I called a bunch of vets statewide, most were not available, and got their voice mails instead. Huh, no help they were! My best neighbor told me try the animal clinic that is 1 1/2 miles away from my place. I called them and told them what is going on with my flock, and what may be causing it, and they asked if I could bring a sick chicken to the clinic. So, I brought a sick lakenvelder cockerel to the clinic in a box, the lady at the counter filled out a form, and asked me to put him on the scale, he was 1 pound and 1 oz, and I thought that the whole process was a little odd.

Then she took me to the examining room, and told me to wait for the vet. He came, and looked over the cockerel without touching it, while I was telling him everything that I was told what was might be going on with my flock. He went to get a very thick book, and found Coryza in it, he said that everything matches, but none of the chickens that I know are sick did not cough, like the ones with Coryza are suppose to cough. I ask him what kind of poultry can get it, he looked it up and said any in the chicken, guinea, and pheasant family(which is peafowl is part of too

) can get Coryza. Ducks, geese, and turkeys does not get Coryza. I asked him then, would the poultry that does not get infected with Coryza like ducks, geese, and turkeys can be transmitting Coryza to my new chickens, when I have cull all of the chickens, guineas, and peafowls, and clean, disinfect everything, and give the ducks, geese, and turkeys a soapy bath, then isolate them in a new coop for a week. He said that will work, and I was so glad that I do not have to destroy my whole flock.

Coryza can only live outside the host for a few days. I asked him if it is possible that he could have test done to confirm that it is Coryza. He tried calling the lab(I think), but they were out for lunch, so he said that he will call me for the time when I can bring the sick chicken back to the clinic to have it tested. Later in the day He called me and said that I can bring the sickest chicken to the clinic on Monday, to be put down, then the body will be taken to the lab to be tested. I paid the clinic $32.00 for the examining, and advice, now I wonder how much will the putting it down, and the testing cost.

 

[Hillbilly Hen]

Farmerboy, I just feel so bad for you having to go thru this

Look up something called vikron s. I have heard that it works even better than oxine to clean and disinfect.

 

[Farmerboy16]

Thanks Hillbilly hen for the vikron info. I looked it up and will order that when I get the results in from the vet. I have been racking my brain, trying to think how I got this illness in the first place. The incubation for croyza is 3 days, and I have seen the chickens with running noses for (I think) 3 weeks. I did not think that it was serious until one of the rooster eyes had swelled up, then died two days later. I had gone to chickenstock on June 24th to sell whatever I had to sell, and brought home some chicks, and ducks. I am not sure if croyza had come from the chickenstock or not. And I have some customers come to buy my chicks, pullets, and whatever I have for sale, they may have brought croyza with them, some of them would bring cockerels that they don't want to me, again I am not sure. Another thought is maybe that the wild birds may have done it. I have seen house sparrows (which I loath very much) eat with my hens, sometimes my hens will chase them away, but they comes back anyway. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.

 

[Farmerboy16]

Also, how can I do the close flock practice? Can I get hatching eggs that are NPIP only into a close flock, and sell hatching eggs and chicks from a close flock. Does close flock means NOTHING goes in and NOTHING goes out, even when you have healthy stock? Thanks.

 

[Farmerboy16]

Well, I took a sick cockerel to the vet today to be tested for Coryza, the vet was not in, so a lady told me that they will give me a call, for how much I will have to paid for it to be tested, and I will know the results in about a week.

They called, and my mom answered the phone, and the lady told my mom that the bill to test one chicken is $350.00.

So I called them and said that I cannot afford it, and just dispose the chicken, and the lady said ok. Well, I will be gradually be culling my flock, and plan to be chicken less by October 1st, maybe sooner, and find hatching eggs to hatch on November 1st to replace most of what I lost to Coryza.

Thanks you all for helping me.

Daron

 

[Chicken Frenzie]

Aww, I'm sorry

 

[Hillbilly Hen]

So sorry Farmboy. I think you are making the right decision even though it's hard to do. My offer still stands so just let me know when you are ready, they should all be laying by then.