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What will be the result in egg color be in offspring of a Whiting True Blue rooster with Starlight Green egger hens who lay a range of light olive eggs to spearmint eggs now?
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Blue eggs with a layer of brown on the outside look green, in different shades depending on the amount of brown.What will be the result in egg color be in offspring of a Whiting True Blue rooster with Starlight Green egger hens who lay a range of light olive eggs to spearmint eggs now?
All the silver/gold splits I’ve seen have visible silver, which I don’t see in any of those roosters. I’m at starting to think cream or another gold diluter is a possibility?The chicks sure look silver. Maybe a very-dilute gold? (Something like a very pale cream, perhaps).
But I'm wondering if the rooster could be a gold/silver split. It'snotcommon to see some red/gold leakage on split males, although I'm not sure if it can be as much as your rooster is showing. If he is, that would definitely explain the silver that appears to be present in the chicks.
Edited to cross out a "not" that didn't belong.
They do look columbian to me, there’s just a few extra genes that are causing the excessive black.As to the last part.. not sure if mine are correct but their tails are mostly bblack with that irredescent green quality and a spangle at the end..
Everything I’ve read says that paint is heterozygous dominant white and extended black. However, it does present in very different ways on different birds, which I don’t understand. (For example, a heterozygous dominant white and black could have barely any black or could be half black and half white. In that case the mostly white bird usually isn’t considered paint despite having the same(?) genetics as the other one.)Is it true if you breed a black Silkie to a white Silkie you get a paint? Thanks
I don't understand what is usually considered paint, unless it is simply a derivative of dominant white. I have had discussions concerning it and it seems whoever and myself that is in the discussion are never able to connect on whether it's a derivative or a seperate gene. I know how dominant white works, but from the discussions it seems I don't understand paint. In my breeding endeavors I have gotten chickens that in appearance look like the paint silkies, but they came from my dominant white birds and when they were bred to solid colored birds they produced just like the normal dominant whites do.
I'll have to leave that to the silkie color experts. Here is a silkie thread.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/silkies-they’re-simply-spectacular.1334299/post-26551705
I’m not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but your mixed gold partridge hen is also blue.I'm having a difficult time telling what color and patterns this guy has...and what the chicks from these two might look like.
Both are Satins
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That random white could also be silver leakage, and if that’s the case it won’t show up as much on his daughters.I am planning to get this Faverolles cockerel and the person that bred him as informed me he is growing some white feathers on his head. The breeder hasn’t mentioned if there is other white feathers hiding on him.
I cannot view him as he’s a plane ride away! He’ll be transported in a couple of weeks via small animal courier.
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I was being hopeful in thinking some of the white was pin feather sheaths.
I understand this is a fault for this variety, but he is otherwise promising. Also, this breed is very hard to find in my area, let alone this colour.
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Is it known what causes the occasional white feather growing on a black bird? As his sire also has white feathers on the same location (see image below), I feel it’s fairly safe to assume it’s a dominant trait and not a juvenile plumage issue.
Could there be test matings to confirm whatever is happening genetically? Or culling subsequent birds with the white feather fault is sufficient?
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Thank you once again!
If it’s recessive it could still show up later. Does anyone know if side sprigs are dominant or recessive?Speaking about side sprigs. Dino has them, but don't show them in current pictures(Frostbite, & hen pecking). None of his offspring ended up with side sprigs. So, I don't think you'd have to worry about it popping up, at all, or at least rarely.
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Not sure if he's old enough to tell anything more yet...but this is the oldest of the chicks now. He's still got a lot of color changing to do before he's grown, but buff and orange are coming in.All the silver/gold splits I’ve seen have visible silver, which I don’t see in any of those roosters. I’m at starting to think cream or another gold diluter is a possibility?
I could see him being a diluted gold, his coloring looks similar to a citron booted bantam, which are gold (I believe they’re mille fleur with the cream gene). I can’t recall if you mentioned what breed you’re working with?Not sure if he's old enough to tell anything more yet...but this is the oldest of the chicks now. He's still got a lot of color changing to do before he's grown, but buff and orange are coming in. View attachment 3430394View attachment 3430395View attachment 3430396View attachment 3430397
Silver/Gold Split Mille Fleur. Still has the Columbian gene though.Not sure if he's old enough to tell anything more yet...but this is the oldest of the chicks now. He's still got a lot of color changing to do before he's grown, but buff and orange are coming in. View attachment 3430394View attachment 3430395View attachment 3430396View attachment 3430397
Olandsk Dwarfs. I believe I see black breasted red, duckwing and Millie fluer in them. All mixed up with some heterogeneous and some homogeneous. Does the cream gene show in the parents?I could see him being a diluted gold, his coloring looks similar to a citron booted bantam, which are gold (I believe they’re mille fleur with the cream gene). I can’t recall if you mentioned what breed you’re working with?
Definitely has Columbian. Still looks like a gold silver gene based bird?Silver/Gold Split Mille Fleur. Still has the Columbian gene though.
I just looked at pictures of the citron booted and he is looking kinda like that so far! Off to read about cream genes.I could see him being a diluted gold, his coloring looks similar to a citron booted bantam, which are gold (I believe they’re mille fleur with the cream gene). I can’t recall if you mentioned what breed you’re working with?
Yes, Gold/Silver split. Only works for males, since females can only have either gold, or silver, but not both.Olandsk Dwarfs. I believe I see black breasted red, duckwing and Millie fluer in them. All mixed up with some heterogeneous and some homogeneous. Does the cream gene show in the parents?
Definitely has Columbian. Still looks like a gold silver gene based bird?
Cream is recessive, so the parents don’t need to look cream to produce cream offspring. Also, black breasted red is duckwing based (like mille fleur is columbian based) it just has the mahogany gene too (making it red duckwing instead of gold duckwing).Olandsk Dwarfs. I believe I see black breasted red, duckwing and Millie fluer in them. All mixed up with some heterogeneous and some homogeneous. Does the cream gene show in the parents?
Definitely has Columbian. Still looks like a gold silver gene based bird?