The bullying has to stop...children are dying

[punk-a-doodle]

And that is why my answer of no was correct. All we knew was the kid was a bully and his parent was a twit. There wasn't enough information to even suggest Asperger's.

Considering it reminded me strongly of several people I have worked with (not in a job environment, in a program environment), and has some points that mirror peer reviewed psychological papers, I disagree. I merely suggested avenues to explore in the hope of finding greater support for teacher and pupil, and clearly left it open to the OP to see if the suggestion held any weight as far as pursuing the idea or similar ideas. Again, the OP would have more insight into this case than either you or I.​

 

[pdsavage]

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I have seen bulling when I was in school went to many diffrent ones.Seen kids picked on who did nothing but have the nerve to be diffrent or poor....I was bullied and picked on cause I didn't have nice stuff like the other kids.Being and Army brat I saw this at every school I went to alot of schools.

 

[deerman]

Bulling is wrong ,that most all agree.......not sure we can blame bulling on all the suicide, no more than we can blame him being gay for reason he chose suicide.

Young coming out they are gay ,bring on more attacks, at the same time hiding those facts, may bring on suicide. Not sure which would be best, waiting until they are older to come out, gays have some haters we all know. Only thing i wonder with so many telling our young gays, its ok to be open about it, are they really able to deal with all the haters out there. Kids can be even meaner than adults.

I don't know the answer, just i see more young kids that are gay, coming out. Then see more attacks,haters ,and yes suicide from them.

I know one thing in this case , was not good for him to be posting on the net, reading comment like people were posting. Be nice if we could stop all the haters.......maybe over time we can.......but for sure he was not mental in shape to be dealing with all the haters, so why would they let him on the net to try and deal with the haters

 

[chickened]

I assume you mean me and I did say "the act" yes the reasons are complex and vary in why one contemplates it but the act itself as I believe is cowardly and insensitive to those still alive, the dead have no more worries. Those meds you refer to actually only mask the problem not "cure" in regards to the illness.
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Ah, you covered one of my old favorites! Always hear that one thrown around.


Blaming the victim certainly makes me question why I am in a society when if we go by the person-with-a-bigger-stick mentality, I'm better off huddled down in a cave with my pet mammoth, Humphrey.


For those tossing around labels such as "selfish" and "cowardly" to describe suicide, realize you are speaking of a broad subject and pigeon holing it to fit your comfort level. I do not feel those close to me who have attempted suicide are weak, selfish, cowardly, etc. In contrast, they have all been highly empathetic, caring people who had issues with either mental illness or a great imbalance in their lives at the time. An altering of medication usually helped immensely. And it was not medication for their back bones.

 

[chickened]

The lesson taught by your boys also keeps for the younger siblings, his friends and relatives in the school. My son had a similar experience and the bully is now a friend and very few kids will bully him or his friends.
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Yes bullies have alway been ,sad alway will be , you are right on it the way thing have changed, they are now protected by the school policies.

Myself when i was in school, all it took in most case to stop a bully. Next time i see you picking on him ,I am going to kick your A**. Bully in most cases were afraid to fight.

One great thing my father taught me , don't start a fight , but don't back down. I did stand up for those that were being bulling.


Really thing that is surprising, wasn't that many fights with bully. Because most would back down. That was one thing most bulles had in common,

All my sons knew not to take anything from a bully. When we move here ,my late son was in jr high. 2nd day , bully try to run him out of his seat on the bus, son punch him. Yes I had to drive my son to school for a week, because he was kick off bus for fighting.

Was ok with me, didn't take long for the word to get around school that you don't pick on the Craft boys.


So yes sometime you need to defend yourself ,and others as well.

Fighting may not be right , but defending yourself or other will alway be right.

Take a swing at a policeman, see how fast he knocks you in the head.

 

[chickened]

We were poor as dirt in school and if there was a reason to be bullied we had them all. I took a stand in the 9th grade at the urging of my wrestling coach and I can count the fights I had on less than one hand all through school and many times as an upper classman that I protected the weak from bullying.
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I have seen bulling when I was in school went to many diffrent ones.Seen kids picked on who did nothing but have the nerve to be diffrent or poor....I was bullied and picked on cause I didn't have nice stuff like the other kids.Being and Army brat I saw this at every school I went to alot of schools.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Quite a few people on here unfortunately. As to drug therapy only masking issues, disagreed, in these particular cases they involve medications that alter brain chemistry in a way that allows for normal levels of hormone secretion to occur. A cure? Depends on your definition for that term.

 

[chickened]

By cure I mean no more meds or meds to deal with side effects. These meds are big business and surely you know pharmaceutical companies pay for medical schools to among other fine things teach doctors to push the drugs they sell. Chemical imbalances in the brain are normal it happens more than most think. The weak link is the acting out that is not brought under subjection. If you or I under went testing we both would have chemical imbalances. Not trying to belabor the point just try and look at all sides.
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[KristyHall]

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medicines can help. some imbalances are so bad they need medication.

 

[cassidy22]

Where are the parents of these bullies?

Do parents not know that their kids are mean and hurtful? Or is it that the parents have taught this to their kids by their own behavior and intolerance?

Sure, kids get picked on, but with the internet and cell phones, they can continue to be bullied even after they go home. And the bullies can keep at it.

I was born in the 70s and did most of my growing up in the early 80s, we took our lumps, and our parents punished us when we didn't behave. My little one is only 2. If I ever knew she was treating other kids this way no matter the reason, boy would she get it. I am a tolerant person and believe we are live and let live, and every person has a story to tell, and unless they are hurting me or my family, people can live their life they way the choose. I hope my daughter learns that from me, and learns to accept others for who they are, and doesn't bully them. But if she does, I will take steps to make sure my child doens't hurt another child. And that doesn't mean sweet talking them.

I refuse to be a helicopter parent, following my child around and making sure she gets the best of everything at everyone else's expense. If she hurts another child, emotionally or physically, she is going to learn a lesson.

I just wish kids felt they could talk to an adult about what they are going through, and that someone in the system somewhere, their parents, their teachers, their counselors, their best friend's parents - that someone will take them seriously and be able to act.

I don't have all the answers, but I hope I raise a daughter that won't be a bully.