In addition, for those who don't want to see or hear graphic details, doesn't it make sense to stay out of "Predators and Pests". Not trying to agrue but this thread was orginially posted in Me, My Chickens, My Family not in Predators and Pests. There are so many wishy washy posts on this board that have nothing at all to do with chickens. I personally don't like these posts Me, My Chickens, My Family section is for threads that may not have anything to do with chickens. I post things about myself, my company, my family and my many other pets in that section all the time. Like you said, if you don't like hearing about animals being killed then stay out of the Predators and Pests section, and if YOU don't like to hear about other members nonchicken stories and such then stay out of Me, My Chickens, My Family section. I wish this topic would be closed!!!