The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[FOGELLY]

Ron doesn't make sense to breed from females that lay like that rather than have a female that lays now and then. Regardless how great their type is they will pass this trait on to their future off spring. Keep it up and if these birds have my old Mow hawk gene in them it will resurface again. Remember look for the brick in every bird you choose. One day they will look like peas in a pod.

Keep posting this way others can send you private messages and you might be able to help them if you have enough females for them and your self. Also, we are planing for next year. I think there will be a demand for up to 300 chicks for beginners. Thank you for posting. Paul your numbers are getting up. Bob

Bob, thanks for your continued support. When I got into Heritage RIR I was told by several people that I would be feeding unproductive eye candy. Well the 3 pullets in my breeding pen have proved them wrong. It also showed me a valuable lesson. It is good to know who is laying what. The three pullets I choose have the best type. Nice long backs, extended keel, good open tails, and weigh around 6.5lbs Luck would have it that they also happen to be my best layers. I have gotten 18 eggs a week from them for 5 weeks in a row. That's 6 eggs a week each. Also the eggs are around 2.5oz each And they are eye candy too! So I will pay more attention to this in the future.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Well Ron years ago in the 1930s they promouted them as the best dual purpose breed. It was the pride of the club leaders to promote this term but many of our American Class breeds are like this or could be like this if they would just pick the best layers each year and in three to five years they will see thier large fowl jump up to one to two points in over all appearence. When shown they not only will win thier class but have a good shot getting on Champion Row as Champion American or higher and Champion Large Fowl of the show. Also, you get the two table components more eggs and meat on thier bones to eat. Most of these folks on this site eat eggs and will eat the birds that are culled. If they dont want to kill the birds as they dont have the heart they will not most of the time be super breeders of the breed. I dont think I have interviewed a master breed who does not put his culls in the deep frezze in my time checking these guys out.

You see there are people who are lurkers who read our posts and are just itching to get into Reds Heritage Reds and or other Heritage Breeds such as White Wyandottes, White Rocks, Silver Laced Wyandottes or even White Dorkings. I hope we see more folks on this board try to help these need breeds. It seems that some folks wil go way off the end and want breeds that are so removed from the standard of perfection that it would take 20 years of judious breeding to even get back to a 90 point bird.

I had person contact me for a very rare type large fowl and they asked me could I help them find better birds as after five years the ones they have gotten all look about the same or out and out culls. They look nothing like the pretty pictures on the coffie cups that they
Have bought or the pictures that they saw in the poutlry catalogs they got in the mail by the poultry artist. After many days and hours of seaching I found out there are no decent birds at least in the USA. Maybe in Europe or some where else they are just flat out breed down to nothing in the USA. Now the person has decided to want another breed. They are worse off in quality than the last one they wanted. My wife says its just a pattern many people get in and they will never change. They are better off picking a breed that has something to work with or at least give me five breeds that they may want and and I can at least tell them what is the better and worst for them.
One lady sent me a personel message for the second breed they wanted and told me the birds that she got from a mid west source was so mean that she had to get rid of them. This lady a year or so ago was the big supporter of this breed and has throwed her hands up in the air and finnaly got a breed that is in need of help and is workable.

New York Reds? Why do they do this to me??
O buy the way I hathed two more chicks from your Champion Male yeaterday.
Vigor and dark down color galore.

 

[catdaddyfro]

Well Ron years ago in the 1930s they promouted them as the best dual purpose breed. It was the pride of the club leaders to promote this term but many of our American Class breeds are like this or could be like this if they would just pick the best layers each year and in three to five years they will see thier large fowl jump up to one to two points in over all appearence. When shown they not only will win thier class but have a good shot getting on Champion Row as Champion American or higher and Champion Large Fowl of the show. Also, you get the two table components more eggs and meat on thier bones to eat. Most of these folks on this site eat eggs and will eat the birds that are culled. If they dont want to kill the birds as they dont have the heart they will not most of the time be super breeders of the breed. I dont think I have interviewed a master breed who does not put his culls in the deep frezze in my time checking these guys out.

You see there are people who are lurkers who read our posts and are just itching to get into Reds Heritage Reds and or other Heritage Breeds such as White Wyandottes, White Rocks, Silver Laced Wyandottes or even White Dorkings. I hope we see more folks on this board try to help these need breeds. It seems that some folks wil go way off the end and want breeds that are so removed from the standard of perfection that it would take 20 years of judious breeding to even get back to a 90 point bird.

I had person contact me for a very rare type large fowl and they asked me could I help them find better birds as after five years the ones they have gotten all look about the same or out and out culls. They look nothing like the pretty pictures on the coffie cups that they
Have bought or the pictures that they saw in the poutlry catalogs they got in the mail by the poultry artist. After many days and hours of seaching I found out there are no decent birds at least in the USA. Maybe in Europe or some where else they are just flat out breed down to nothing in the USA. Now the person has decided to want another breed. They are worse off in quality than the last one they wanted. My wife says its just a pattern many people get in and they will never change. They are better off picking a breed that has something to work with or at least give me five breeds that they may want and and I can at least tell them what is the better and worst for them.
One lady sent me a personel message for the second breed they wanted and told me the birds that she got from a mid west source was so mean that she had to get rid of them. This lady a year or so ago was the big supporter of this breed and has throwed her hands up in the air and finnaly got a breed that is in need of help and is workable.

New York Reds? Why do they do this to me??
O buy the way I hathed two more chicks from your Champion Male yeaterday.
Vigor and dark down color galore.

Bob I just posted almost the same thing as you just mentioned(highlighted in bold print) over to the German NH site. great minds think alike huh?

 

[FOGELLY]

Bob you don't know how glad I am that laying ability in this strain looks like it is not going to be a problem.
My wife always says "no freeloaders are allowed around here!"
We have not bought a chicken from the grocery store in probably five years. Put over 40 in the freezer last year.

On another note I don't have mean rooster on the place and have not had problem with this since getting rid of all our hatchery stock a few years ago. My seven year old boy handles every rooster we have.

Bob I also got a start on Cloumbian Rocks from Scott. I pretty excited about them. BTW I bet they are pretty tasty too.

Ron

 

[Matt1616]

How many people on this site have Heartage R I Reds now? Hopefully next year we will double the numbers so others can get stock eggs or chicks. bob

Bob, you know what I have. I have the Mohawk line and the mystery line from Florida that is impressing me more every day. When you were over the other day you told me you thought the mystery line was probably one of the top 5 lines of RIR's in the country and I tend to agree.

 

[Chris09]

Quote:
Bob,
You know what I have. lol

I have a live of pure Dick Hostman Rose Comb Reds
A line of Rose Comb Reds that are around 3/4 Dick Hosrstman Rose Comb Reds and 1/4 Dennis Myers Single Comb Reds
I also have the Single Comb line that is around 3/4 Dennis Myers Single Comb Reds and 1/4 Dick Horstman Rose Comb Reds.

* Dick's line of Rose comb Reds is a cross of Tim Bowles and Rick Bond line of Reds.

Chris

 

[henpeckedmuch]

The question was asked "I wonder how many people have RIR's now ?"
I have some, they are not the best and maybe not even good stock. but I have a couple of friends that have teenage sons. I hire the kids sometimes to do errands for me around the house. I've taught them how to incubate and care for chicks. And now they want to raise RIR's themselves. I've promised to give them both chicks ,in the future, after I get some better stock that I've ordered. I'll buy the material and help them build a hen house Their labor is all that is needed. Their parents have given their approval and promised to accompany them to their first show with their new chickens. Of coarse I want to help the kids out but, there is the posiblity that later on down the line I may want to borrow some of their stock for breeding purposes.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Pretty typey male you have pictured there he looks good. What blood line does he come from or what Large Fowl Reds do you have."?:??? Thnatks for sharing with the youth. I had folks do this with me when I was a kid. bob

The question was asked "I wonder how many people have RIR's now ?"
I have some, they are not the best and maybe not even good stock. but I have a couple of friends that have teenage sons. I hire the kids sometimes to do errands for me around the house. I've taught them how to incubate and care for chicks. And now they want to raise RIR's themselves. I've promised to give them both chicks ,in the future, after I get some better stock that I've ordered. I'll buy the material and help them build a hen house Their labor is all that is needed. Their parents have given their approval and promised to accompany them to their first show with their new chickens. Of coarse I want to help the kids out but, there is the posiblity that later on down the line I may want to borrow some of their stock for breeding purposes.

 

[henpeckedmuch]

The cockeral came from D. Urch I've been told that his back is to short and he isn't brick shaped enough. I whistled real load for him to stop so I could get the picture. When I did he went into alert mode and streched his neck up. I think this makes him look even worst. I have three hens also from Urch. Two have great color, only one of them has that real straight back line you mentioned, the other has that pillow on her lower back. They were kept with too many other chickens in two small of an area by the person I bought them from ( not Urch). They suffered from their tail feathers having been chewed upon. The third hen has good shape, but her color isn't even, she is slightly mottled. I ordered 25 chicks from Greg Chamness and hope to get them before long.
Meanwhile I'm practicing my hatching skills out with what I have. I set 18 eggs, then one week later set 16 more, and one week later set another 16 eggs. So far I've hatched 16 of the first 18 set, and 14 of the first 16 eggs set. The last 16 will hatch this coming Wed. These were the first eggs I've ever tried to hatch and I'm happy with my success.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

Here are some of our Heritage Large Fowl chicks. Mostly Buff and White Orpingtons. Also, six Ricky Bates line Heritage Rhode Island Reds.

These Reds were given as eggs to one of our 4H club members. He has had a delay in getting his brooder tote completed. Catherine is bringing all the parts home from school tonight and will be returning it, chicks included, to him at school in the morning.



P.S. A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU KNOW WHO FOR DONATING THESE TO JIMMY!