The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[Renie'sPeeps]

Rooster.... you really out did yourself on the photos..

The birds look great as they should!

 

[Phantom_Rooster]

Color wise, I'd say this hen is exceptional. That's some of the best pattern I've seen on any Jubilee! She is gorgeous!

How old is she? By a year she will be stunning.

ETA: I'll take a dozen from her and your big handsome boy!

I'm holding you to it. One dozen chicks are on hold for ya. Thanks

 

[Phantom_Rooster]

Way Cute!

Thanks Nellie. The other 7 will look like this soon.

 

[aveca]

Rooster.... you really out did yourself on the photos..

The birds look great as they should!

X 2.....

 

[rockinpaints]

Yes, I have seen it. My mom has some Chocolate bantams exactly like that????

About the same age. I have seen some strange colors popping up in the Orpington imports. Like the Lavender Cuckoo above. Or gold bleeding through on the hackles on the chocs, or gold hackles of the splash and blues (and some barring in the tail feathers etc). I spoke with some one over in the UK and the orps colors were crossed for various project colors and apparently first generation culls (when the colors are the same as one of the parents) when sold was not disclosed that they were carrying a different color gene. (I'm sorry but I am not at liberty to say who)

Unfortunately there is no way of knowing what is back there until the second generation when different colors will begin to show up. Some times it is kind of neat but some times it is annoying when you have a beautiful bird and the color is all wrong........

There is a perfect example of this on one of the sale sites here in the USA. A breeder is selling black orps but the sire (rooster) is a split chocolate, visibly black. 50% of the males he produces will carry the chocolate gene and be visibly black being sold as black, but when bred to a blue or splash will produce blues with coppering (choc) in the hackles, not good when you think you have a genetically black roo. If the genetics are not disclosed it is really going to mess up some lines for unknowing breeders.

All I can say to anyone selling birds is PLEASE, PLEASE disclose what is behind your birds if you are aware. Even if you decided to try to breed out of a color issue (ie gold in the hackles) it takes generations to do. It is almost worth starting all over.

I am sorry about your chocs TKay, but on the brighter side, a good start to Chocolate Cuckoo??

And they are pretty!

I have a question......This cockerel is a UK Chocolate. However, he is showing some barring on his feathers. Has anyone else had their chocolates feather like this? Or anyone have an opinion on whats going on? Thanks!

 

[rockinpaints]

PS. Just wanted to add 'projects' are great just keep good records......

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Rooster.... do you have any pictures of Jul chicks??

 

[tkay6205]

Yes, I have seen it.  My mom has some Chocolate bantams exactly like that????   About the same age.  I have seen some strange colors popping up in the Orpington imports.  Like the Lavender Cuckoo above.  Or gold bleeding through on the hackles on the chocs, or gold hackles of the splash and blues (and some barring in the tail feathers etc).     I spoke with some one over in the UK and the orps colors were crossed for various project colors and apparently first generation culls (when the colors are the same as one of the parents) when sold was not disclosed that they were carrying a different color gene. (I'm sorry but I am not at liberty to say who)

Unfortunately there is no way of knowing what is back there until the second generation when different colors will begin to show up.  Some times it is kind of neat but some times it is annoying when you have a beautiful bird and the color is all wrong........

There is a perfect example of this on one of the sale sites here in the USA.  A breeder is selling black orps but the sire (rooster) is a split chocolate, visibly black.  50% of the males he produces will carry the chocolate gene and be visibly black being sold as black, but when bred to a blue or splash will produce blues with coppering (choc) in the hackles, not good when you think you have a genetically black roo.  If the genetics are not disclosed it is really going to mess up some lines for unknowing breeders.

All I can say to anyone selling birds is PLEASE, PLEASE disclose what is behind your birds if you are aware.   Even if you decided to try to breed out of a color issue (ie gold in the hackles) it takes generations to do.  It is almost worth starting all over.

I am sorry about your chocs TKay, but on the brighter side, a good start to Chocolate Cuckoo??    And they are pretty!

Thanks for the info Nellie! I kinda figured that was the case. This cockerel came from a VERY well known breeder. I'm not upset at all. I'm gonna use him as a possible choc cuckoo project. Never know!!!

BTW your lavender cuckoo is gorgeous!!!

 

[vebyrd36]

Rooster ur babies are very pretty, do you have baby pics of them plz. VIVI

The girls were jealous that I didn't show much of them.

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Well.... Pandora... my new Sportsman has almost completed her first hatch... Still have one more hold out rocking around in there. This will be a 100% hatch if or rather When... it does hatch. and YES you are looking at 3 English Buff chicks.