The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

This is an update on Butterball who is now 5 weeks old. Still no comb in sight and still not screaming cockerel. But, I'm not holding my breath since he's as big as the boys with larger combs. I will hug anyone that tells me he is looking like a girl.
Well I guess I get the first hug then
 
the thing about name dropping, its not always name dropping when someone wants to know where your stock came from. you tell them. If you got your stock from a reputable breeder then prospective buyers should know that you did your homework and purchased from the best to start with. once you start breeding they are of course your lines, because its you making the decisions. So telling everyone to be aware of anyone who "name drops" is not the best advice out there. It does hold true if the person claims to have gotten birds from big name breeder but that is where doing your homework comes in. Not all of us are liars and cheats. I dont sell breeding stock, just have offspring of birds that came from another breeder on here. That might change though, and if it does I wont hesitate to answer about where I got my stock from.
 
Boy are these little ones hard to photograph. I had forgotten
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Good news is they let me rub their chests while I was trying to be patient with their antics.

Here are Pearl and Opal. I believe one hatched Feb 12 (?) and the other maybe Feb 18th (?). Nellie will have to correct me. So, perhaps 4-5 weeks old. The middle picture captured the heat lamp reflecting on her back (the two "brooding" areas together are 14 x 36 ft and it's hard to warm up. It will be close to freezing tonight). In the last picture I was trying to show off their green sheen, but incandescent lighting doesn't do the trick. Anyhow, here are two of my girls.





CUTE GIRLS !
 
The thought these BBS Orps are the first UK Orps brought into this hemisphere in 50 years is simply not true. Don told me of a fella who brought in UK Buffs over a dozen years ago. He got eggs from Canada before they tightened the bio security laws. Whether it was "legally" imported eggs is still not known. That guy sold a huge 16 lbs Buff cockerel at an east coast show to a guy from the north Midwest. That Buff blood has been since used by a number of very well sought after APA Buff breeders.
These are the first Buff Orps I ever owned (thank you LEE!!!!). Clearly they have UK blood in them.
Whether you folks like it or not, this is not a new idea.



This is very true. A couple of my closest friends r APA judges which is why I quit showing.(Makes it kinda easy to win LOL) Julie, Do u rem about 4 or 5 years ago when my close friend (wont say a name but was the president of the BCM club at the time and one of my college professor's) gave me a bunch of buff orp chicks and I sent u pics of them and promised to either send u some when I could sex them or at least eggs when they began laying? I even sent u pics of them in a blue tote I took out in the sunlight for u and told u they were from a very good line. I told u my buddy acquired them for me from a close friend of his that was an APA judge at the time. Well all of this was true but what I left out at the time cause I didn't wanna get anyone in trouble was those were 100% English imports this judge illegally imported here as eggs. The chicks I had were the full offspring from the birds that hatched from the eggs he imported.

I want to apologise to u again but the reason I didn't hold up my promise is cause me and the wife separated at the time and had a really nasty divorce and custody battle over my son. Anyways in past now but I went to jail for assaulting the guy she had an affair with at the time and while I was there she got the home and a restraining order and I couldn't even go onto my own property at the time. Everyone else, I was young and stupid at the time and was only 25. My ex wife knew how much those birds meant to me so she sold and gave all my chickens away outta spite for beating up her now new husband. I had no where to live at the time so had to move into the city with a marine bud of mine until everything got straightened out in court. I was so depressed about everything that BYC was just too depressing to log onto so I didn't for about 2 years and just disappeared. I had been a member since 03 or 04. When I did try to get back on my account was gone so I created this one. Those of u that knew me at the time my user-name was very similar to this one and had a unique pic of a pure old english game bantam mille fleur hen with a naked neck that was a project I had created at the time that took 7 years. If u remember too Julie I was working on a LF red orpington project but a bobcat put me behind on that one.

Long story short and now that my underwear is flapping in the wind. Julie if u still by some slim chance have the pics I took for u and sent u via BYC, would u please post them? I think they were only about 6 to 8 weeks old in the pics but it was still obvious they were English imports. Thanks to the ex I no longer have that PC or the camera to post them myself. My good bud that got them for me and gave the buff orps to me also went thru a nasty divorce the same time I did and also had to move out of his home and we lost contact with both our addresses and #s being changed. A few days ago I just looked him up on a popular social site and sent him a friend request hoping by chance he is still in the hobby and maybe his friend still has this line and if by some slim chance he still does and I can aquire more I will make good on my promise.

I used to have a lot of contacts in the hobby and some I have reconnected with and I have also made new ones which is how I legally acquired that separate line of imported SL Orp eggs for free the other day that have been in the US for at least 4 years. I am in no way new to the hobby or breeding birds as I have shown most my childhood and have even volunteered my time and have been a guest judge at county fairs for youth shows. I set down with the BCM president and helped him write the breed standard and helped with contacts to get enough uniform birds together to present to the board for acceptance. I just paid off my house and 56 acre farm last year in full and am basically just starting back into the hobby. I asked a simple and reasonable question about selling started pairs of BBS imported orps and got some of the strangest responses. The price in my head was $35 to $50 a pair and was wanting to gauge if that was a fair price. I am only 32 but in time I think I will earn respect with my breeding efforts. I have paid my dues and have been breeding chickens since I was a kid. Believe me I searched along time and paid hefty prices to get the best possible examples and varieties of orpingtons I could, when I could have saved lots of time and money and bought birds of poorer quality and still culled my expensive birds hard. Point is alot of breeds and lines r not new imports to the US. They r just new to u as they have been imported illegally and these people just stay under the radar. I'm not saying I'm an advocate of it but I will stand to bet more members then u think also know of people who imported in eggs and had some of these birds well b4 someone else did and went public with it.
 
Hugs all around then!!! If y'all were closer, I'd pop the bubbly. That means I could possibly have THREE pullets.
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Two are RockStar babies and Butterball is a Max baby. Life is good. Come Fall, if the Dr's give me the thumbs up, Buddy will have his job cut out for him. Y'all made my night.
 
the thing about name dropping, its not always name dropping when someone wants to know where your stock came from. you tell them. If you got your stock from a reputable breeder then prospective buyers should know that you did your homework and purchased from the best to start with. once you start breeding they are of course your lines, because its you making the decisions. So telling everyone to be aware of anyone who "name drops" is not the best advice out there. It does hold true if the person claims to have gotten birds from big name breeder but that is where doing your homework comes in. Not all of us are liars and cheats. I dont sell breeding stock, just have offspring of birds that came from another breeder on here. That might change though, and if it does I wont hesitate to answer about where I got my stock from.
Completely agreed.
 

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