The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[delisha]

A couple Silver Laced Orpington Chicks that just hatched. They are so big and energetic it took forever to get a decent picture to share!

Beautiful..
You have such beautiful birds..

 

[BamaChicken]

Gardengirl: you hit the nail on the head! I have been trying to be patient with a group I am growing out to see if I'll have something show worthy for the fall. They have been in the gangly awkward stage for so long. It surprised me today when I went out to check everyone before tuning in for the evening - they have exploded! this group is 5 months old and I put a 5 gallon bucket in for reference.







Sorry for loading so many pictures. They've just gotten so big and wide. This group is all out my biggest black hen Chelsea, who I showed last fall and the early part of this year, and my biggest black rooster. i think his son will be bigger than he is and if the pullets keep growing any, they will surpass her as well. Hopefully one of these will make to show this fall. They are American and English lines.

Looks like they are going to be really big. Look forward to future pics of them.

Don , Yes they are the imported ones. Hoping they turn out well. I would love to be able to show them but we will see in another few months. .
Thanks Lynn.
I am amazed everyday to go out and see how they have all grown.

 

[alibra]

Im in love with my splash roo. He's handsome, Big, perfect shape, face, fluffiness, temperament, etc. but he has a few brown "splashes" and some yellow, which think the yellow is mostly from the sun and dirt. I hear that brown is a "no no" when breeding. I just got some exhibition quality black orp hens. Will his "flawed" color be bred out easily? If I get a blue hen and cross him with her, will the splash chicks have brown? Is it a bad idea?

 

[Kiniska]

If the color is a flaw it is a crying shame. I love the rich caramel colors in him. He is beautiful.

Im in love with my splash roo. He's handsome, Big, perfect shape, face, fluffiness, temperament, etc. but he has a few brown "splashes" and some yellow, which think the yellow is mostly from the sun and dirt. I hear that brown is a "no no" when breeding. I just got some exhibition quality black orp hens. Will his "flawed" color be bred out easily? If I get a blue hen and cross him with her, will the splash chicks have brown? Is it a bad idea?

 

[Blarneyeggs]

Ii have a question regarding the Partridge color. Does anyone know what the foot and shank color should be in the English Standard? All the breeds with Partridge colored birds in the APA Standard are to have yellow feet and shanks. Anyone know what the English Standard calls for for Orpingtons? or where I could look for that info?

 

[Irishhenman]

Here is a copy of the orpington standard directly from the british poultry standards book, I have removed the scale of points though because it doesn't turn out right on here

ORPINGTON
LARGE FOWL

Origin: Great Britain
Classification: Heavy: Soft feather
Egg Colour: Brown
In the Orpington we have an English breed named after the village in Kent where the originator, William Cook, had his farm. He introduced the black variety in 1886, the white in 1889 and the buff in 1894. Within five years of the original black Orpington being introduced exhibition breeders were crossing Langshan and Cochin and exhibiting the offspring as black Orpingtons, the birds fetching high prices, and attracting many for their immense size. But this crossing at once turned a dual-purpose breed into one solely for show purposes, and it has remained so until today. A late introduction, the Jubilee Orpington, is now rarely seen.

General Characteristics: male
Carriage: Bold, upright and graceful; that of an active fowl.
Type: Body deep, broad and cobby. Back nicely curved with a somewhat short, concave outline. Saddle wide and slightly rising, with full hackle. Breast broad, deep and well rounded, not flat. Wings small, nicely formed and carried closely to the body, the ends almost hidden by the saddle hackle. Tail rather short, compact, flowing and high, but by no means a squirrel tail.
Head: Small and neat, fairly full over the eyes. Beak strong and nicely curved. Eyes large and bold. Comb single, small, firmly set on head, evenly serrated and free from side sprigs. Face smooth. Wattles of medium length, rather oblong and nicely rounded at the bottom. Ear-lobes small and elongated.
Neck: Of medium length, curved, compact and with full hackle.
Legs and feet: Legs short and strong, the thighs almost hidden by the body feathers, well set apart. Toes, four, straight and well spread.
Plumage: Fairly profuse but close, not soft, loose and fluffy as in the Cochin, or close and hard as in the Game Fowl.
Handling: Firm.

Female
The general characteristics are similar to those of the male. Her cushion should be wide but almost flat, and slightly rising to the tail, sufficient to give the back a graceful appear- ance with an outline approaching concave.

Colour

The blue
Male plumage: Hackles, saddle, wing bow, back and tail dark slate-blue. Remainder slate-blue, each feather to show lacing of darker shade as on back.
Female plumage: Medium slate-blue, laced with darker shade all through, except head and neck, dark slate-blue.
In both sexes: Beak black. Eyes black or very dark brown, black preferred. Comb, face, wattles and ear-lobes bright red. Legs and feet black or blue. Toenails white.

The black
Male and female plumage: Black with a green sheen.
In both sexes: Beak, etc. as in the blue. Soles of feet white.

The buff
Male and female plumage: Clear, even buff throughout to the skin.
In both sexes: Beak white or horn. Eyes red or orange colour. Comb, face, ear-lobes
and wattles bright red. Legs, feet and toenails white. Skin white.

The white
Male and female plumage: Pure snow-white.
In both sexes: Beak, legs, feet and skin white. Eyes, face, ear-lobes and wattles red.

Weights
Male 4.5kg (10lb) min. Female 3.6kg (8lb) min.



Serious defects
Side sprigs on comb. White in ear-lobes. Feather or fluff on shanks or feet. Long legs. Any deformity. Yellow skin or yellow on the shanks or feet of any variety. Any yellow or sappiness in the white. Coarseness in head, legs or feathers of the buff.

Disqualifications
Trimming or faking.


BANTAM
Orpington bantams are miniatures of their large fowl counterparts and the standard for those should be followed.
Weights
Visually 25% of large counterpart.

Suggested weights:
Male 2kg(4–1lb) 2
Female 1.6kg(3–1lb) 2

 

[MorgansManor]

Oh I love the cute perfectly round silver babies!
Debbie

 

[BamaChicken]

Ii have a question regarding the Partridge color. Does anyone know what the foot and shank color should be in the English Standard? All the breeds with Partridge colored birds in the APA Standard are to have yellow feet and shanks. Anyone know what the English Standard calls for for Orpingtons? or where I could look for that info?

Blarneyeggs I don't believe they are accepted in the standard in the UK at this time. I am not sure what they are working toward but I know people I can ask in the UK .

 

[aveca]

Here is a copy of the orpington standard directly from the british poultry standards book, I have removed the scale of points though because it doesn't turn out right on here

ORPINGTON
LARGE FOWL

Origin: Great Britain
Classification: Heavy: Soft feather
Egg Colour: Brown
In the Orpington we have an English breed named after the village in Kent where the originator, William Cook, had his farm. He introduced the black variety in 1886, the white in 1889 and the buff in 1894. Within five years of the original black Orpington being introduced exhibition breeders were crossing Langshan and Cochin and exhibiting the offspring as black Orpingtons, the birds fetching high prices, and attracting many for their immense size. But this crossing at once turned a dual-purpose breed into one solely for show purposes, and it has remained so until today. A late introduction, the Jubilee Orpington, is now rarely seen.

General Characteristics: male
Carriage: Bold, upright and graceful; that of an active fowl.
Type: Body deep, broad and cobby. Back nicely curved with a somewhat short, concave outline. Saddle wide and slightly rising, with full hackle. Breast broad, deep and well rounded, not flat. Wings small, nicely formed and carried closely to the body, the ends almost hidden by the saddle hackle. Tail rather short, compact, flowing and high, but by no means a squirrel tail.
Head: Small and neat, fairly full over the eyes. Beak strong and nicely curved. Eyes large and bold. Comb single, small, firmly set on head, evenly serrated and free from side sprigs. Face smooth. Wattles of medium length, rather oblong and nicely rounded at the bottom. Ear-lobes small and elongated.
Neck: Of medium length, curved, compact and with full hackle.
Legs and feet: Legs short and strong, the thighs almost hidden by the body feathers, well set apart. Toes, four, straight and well spread.
Plumage: Fairly profuse but close, not soft, loose and fluffy as in the Cochin, or close and hard as in the Game Fowl.
Handling: Firm.

Female
The general characteristics are similar to those of the male. Her cushion should be wide but almost flat, and slightly rising to the tail, sufficient to give the back a graceful appear- ance with an outline approaching concave.

Colour

The blue
Male plumage: Hackles, saddle, wing bow, back and tail dark slate-blue. Remainder slate-blue, each feather to show lacing of darker shade as on back.
Female plumage: Medium slate-blue, laced with darker shade all through, except head and neck, dark slate-blue.
In both sexes: Beak black. Eyes black or very dark brown, black preferred. Comb, face, wattles and ear-lobes bright red. Legs and feet black or blue. Toenails white.

The black
Male and female plumage: Black with a green sheen.
In both sexes: Beak, etc. as in the blue. Soles of feet white.

The buff
Male and female plumage: Clear, even buff throughout to the skin.
In both sexes: Beak white or horn. Eyes red or orange colour. Comb, face, ear-lobes
and wattles bright red. Legs, feet and toenails white. Skin white.

The white
Male and female plumage: Pure snow-white.
In both sexes: Beak, legs, feet and skin white. Eyes, face, ear-lobes and wattles red.

Weights
Male 4.5kg (10lb) min. Female 3.6kg (8lb) min.



Serious defects
Side sprigs on comb. White in ear-lobes. Feather or fluff on shanks or feet. Long legs. Any deformity. Yellow skin or yellow on the shanks or feet of any variety. Any yellow or sappiness in the white. Coarseness in head, legs or feathers of the buff.

Disqualifications
Trimming or faking.


BANTAM
Orpington bantams are miniatures of their large fowl counterparts and the standard for those should be followed.
Weights
Visually 25% of large counterpart.

Suggested weights:
Male 2kg(4–1lb) 2
Female 1.6kg(3–1lb) 2

Coarseness in head, such an important thing in both standards..people overlook things like that..so seeing this is a great reminder to breeders

 

[Blarneyeggs]

Blarneyeggs I don't believe they are accepted in the standard in the UK at this time.   I am not sure what they are working toward but I know people I can ask in the UK .

Bama, that would be great, Thank You!

Here is a copy of the orpington standard directly from the british poultry standards book, I have removed the scale of points though because it doesn't turn out right on here

ORPINGTON
LARGE FOWL

Origin: Great Britain
Classification: Heavy: Soft feather
Egg Colour: Brown
In the Orpington we have an English breed named after the village in Kent where the originator, William Cook, had his farm. He introduced the black variety in 1886, the white in 1889 and the buff in 1894. Within five years of the original black Orpington being introduced exhibition breeders were crossing Langshan and Cochin and exhibiting the offspring as black Orpingtons, the birds fetching high prices, and attracting many for their immense size. But this crossing at once turned a dual-purpose breed into one solely for show purposes, and it has remained so until today. A late introduction, the Jubilee Orpington, is now rarely seen.

General Characteristics: male
Carriage: Bold, upright and graceful; that of an active fowl.
Type: Body deep, broad and cobby. Back nicely curved with a somewhat short, concave outline. Saddle wide and slightly rising, with full hackle. Breast broad, deep and well rounded, not flat. Wings small, nicely formed and carried closely to the body, the ends almost hidden by the saddle hackle. Tail rather short, compact, flowing and high, but by no means a squirrel tail.
Head: Small and neat, fairly full over the eyes. Beak strong and nicely curved. Eyes large and bold. Comb single, small, firmly set on head, evenly serrated and free from side sprigs. Face smooth. Wattles of medium length, rather oblong and nicely rounded at the bottom. Ear-lobes small and elongated.
Neck: Of medium length, curved, compact and with full hackle.
Legs and feet: Legs short and strong, the thighs almost hidden by the body feathers, well set apart. Toes, four, straight and well spread.
Plumage: Fairly profuse but close, not soft, loose and fluffy as in the Cochin, or close and hard as in the Game Fowl.
Handling: Firm.

Female
The general characteristics are similar to those of the male. Her cushion should be wide but almost flat, and slightly rising to the tail, sufficient to give the back a graceful appear- ance with an outline approaching concave.

Colour

The blue
Male plumage: Hackles, saddle, wing bow, back and tail dark slate-blue. Remainder slate-blue, each feather to show lacing of darker shade as on back.
Female plumage: Medium slate-blue, laced with darker shade all through, except head and neck, dark slate-blue.
In both sexes: Beak black. Eyes black or very dark brown, black preferred. Comb, face, wattles and ear-lobes bright red. Legs and feet black or blue. Toenails white.

The black
Male and female plumage: Black with a green sheen.
In both sexes: Beak, etc. as in the blue. Soles of feet white.

The buff
Male and female plumage: Clear, even buff throughout to the skin.
In both sexes: Beak white or horn. Eyes red or orange colour. Comb, face, ear-lobes
and wattles bright red. Legs, feet and toenails white. Skin white.

The white
Male and female plumage: Pure snow-white.
In both sexes: Beak, legs, feet and skin white. Eyes, face, ear-lobes and wattles red.

Weights
Male 4.5kg (10lb) min. Female 3.6kg (8lb) min.



Serious defects
Side sprigs on comb. White in ear-lobes. Feather or fluff on shanks or feet. Long legs. Any deformity. Yellow skin or yellow on the shanks or feet of any variety. Any yellow or sappiness in the white. Coarseness in head, legs or feathers of the buff.

Disqualifications
Trimming or faking.


BANTAM
Orpington bantams are miniatures of their large fowl counterparts and the standard for those should be followed.
Weights
Visually 25% of large counterpart.

Suggested weights:
Male 2kg(4–1lb) 2
Female 1.6kg(3–1lb) 2

Irishhenman, Thank You! This is great info. It looks like no yellow would be good. Yay!