The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[BamaChicken]

One thing you don't want to breed in that pinched tailed look that so many of what is called Orps look like.

This boy here has a great tail. He is wide front to back and just a great specimen. I wish he was a little more imported Enlish typey but he is still a good choice for

breeding a great tail.

 

[BamaChicken]

I love the high angle on this tail but his shape is not quite as good although they are both really large birds. Still I will breed to see what comes of crosses on hens with tails not as high

 

[fowlman01]

I love the high angle on this tail but his shape is not quite as good although they are both really large birds. Still I will breed to see what comes of crosses on hens with tails not as high

Pictures are really difficult to judge from, but in many ways this looks like a better bird to me. His tail is not as nice, but his wing placement is correct while the other bird point straight down.....they should be like this guy. The other birds lower breast is flat (instead of rounded, it runs in a diagonal line) this guy looks more rounded on the bottom of the breast, but I can't tell by the picture. Maybe this birds tail is not all the way in. The tail fathers look to be very wide, which is what you want to see. They both have good points.

Walt

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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Same place the fellow in Louisiana got his from. He has since culled everything and acquired hatching eggs from several exhibition breeders with nice White Orpingtons. If yours came from McMurray, I would watch them close. It is doubtful a hatchery bird will ever meet the Standard. For a backyard layer, you will do alright. But for exhibition... some judges can be quite ..... straight forward! The Louisiana birds had "Not an Orp" written on its coop card at its last show. Before that it had placed Best of Variety and even a Best of Breed. They sent me the pictures and I tried to explain. Then one afternoon they drove the hour up to our place. Once they looked at our Buff and Black Orpingtons, no explanation was necessary.

 

[bstarr20]

Are the differences in the American and English standards posted here somewhere? I have some 3/4 English birds and find 2 of 4 a little leggier than the ones I see on here. Also the two she placed with at a 4-h show were the ones that seem a bit more English type.

 

[bstarr20]

My avatar is BC our rooster
These are the two hens that place champion and reserve at a district show but nothing at state. They were about 6mths or so in these pics. Avatar is recent.

 

[bstarr20]

I know have 100% eggs in the bator.

 

[deek]

Pictures are really difficult to judge from, but in many ways this looks like a better bird to me. His tail is not as nice, but his wing placement is correct while the other bird point straight down.....they should be like this guy. The other birds lower breast is flat (instead of rounded, it runs in a diagonal line) this guy looks more rounded on the bottom of the breast, but I can't tell by the picture. Maybe this birds tail is not all the way in. The tail fathers look to be very wide, which is what you want to see. They both have good points.

Walt

Walt, I'd like to thank you from those of us that are trying to learn. I know I too have asked questions about the Eng and American SOP and have been referred to the "BIble." I have ordered one and will use it as reference...but it is priceless for someone like you to take the time to visually point out differences. I guess I am a visual learner. For me, it was very helpful to see two birds that were compared.

Dee

 

[Orps]

Hi everyone!

New to orps and chickens. I've been enjoying the picture of all the orps so I've decided to posted a couple of my birds. I believe they are 85% English. The lady I got them from got her stock at Garry's Farm in GA. They are starting to go into their ugly stage right now at 5-6 weeks.

Below is suppose to be my Black orp but not sure what is happening around her breast.




Here is a picture of my blue, splash(That really hasn't splashed. I blame it on her split lavender parents) and black.

 

[fowlman01]

Walt, I'd like to thank you from those of us that are trying to learn. I know I too have asked questions about the Eng and American SOP and have been referred to the "BIble." I have ordered one and will use it as reference...but it is priceless for someone like you to take the time to visually point out differences. I guess I am a visual learner. For me, it was very helpful to see two birds that were compared.

Dee

It is my pleasure. It's not completely accurate to assess chickens online, but some things really jump out to me. I'm a ABA/APA general licensed judge so I should know birds. The US and English Standards primary differences is that the Brits call for a smaller head and a slighly looser feathering, other than that they are pretty close in description. The actual birds though are a ocean apart.......it surprises me....you would think the descriptions would be quite different as well, but that has been said before. When you get your Standard read the first 39 pages before you read anything else. That will help you understand the rest. Many people only go to the breeds they are interested in and wonder why they can't understand it.

Walt