The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[TheKeeper]

 
ISO: Mottled / Spangled Orpington COCKEREL. Thank you!

@TheKeeper
 has some right now. They're about 4 months old I think and I know she knows how to ship juvi/adult birds. Hers are from Jeff/@Papa Brooder
 (which I *think* are from @boykin2010
 originally if I'm remembering what he told me correctly).

Yep, @SunnySky I do. I have 3 young studs. I'd be happy to send pics & $ details if you PM me. All 3 are nice - 1 looks like it's going to be especially large.

Shipping might get dicey for awhile with the AI outbreak so it'd have to be played by ear.

 

[Papa Brooder]

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Although i do have some from Bryce, the ones that @TheKeeper don't have any influence from his outcrossed to black line. I will start breeding that line soon, but they are not separated into a breeding pen yet. The ones that @TheKeeper has werefrom some of the original birds that came from Autumn farms way back when that bryce had and sold way back when, at least when i got them the person said they were from bryce. but that was before his new line.. ha ha tracing a birds heritage can be fun... in any case, the ones lisa has are from Autumn farms and possibly some from the AF rooster that i have outcrossed to black, I can't remember exactly which eggs/chicks she got
.

 

[HighStreetCoop]

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Although i do have some from Bryce, the ones that @TheKeeper don't have any influence from his outcrossed to black line. I will start breeding that line soon, but they are not separated into a breeding pen yet. The ones that @TheKeeper has werefrom some of the original birds that came from Autumn farms way back when that bryce had and sold way back when, at least when i got them the person said they were from bryce. but that was before his new line.. ha ha tracing a birds heritage can be fun... in any case, the ones lisa has are from Autumn farms and possibly some from the AF rooster that i have outcrossed to black, I can't remember exactly.


Our pond is small and muddy ...

 

[SunnySky]

Our pond is small and muddy ...

Thank you all! I'm trying to avoid AF lines as the rest of mine are AF so I want to decrease the possibility of throwing birds with red feathers. I've already seen a couple with red feathers that I've grown out and that's a couple more then I'm comfortable with lol.

 

[Sherri Dowey]

Went out earlier today to feed the 3 lavender orpington roosters and one of them came running over to me and bit me on the hand. I thought they were supposed to be gentle birds. This wasn't the first time I've had a problem with this rooster. He will definitely have to find a new home.

 

[DevilsDenHen]

Went out earlier today to feed the 3 lavender orpington roosters and one of them came running over to me and bit me on the hand. I thought they were supposed to be gentle birds. This wasn't the first time I've had a problem with this rooster. He will definitely have to find a new home.

I have a guy that's a little nippy too. I don't think he's being mean. Just overly eager for the food lol.

 

[Sherri Dowey]

Hadn't thought of that. Thought he was being aggressive. He is a bit rough on the other roo's. Also he is a darker shade of lavender than the others. I would rather have a lighter shade.

 

[greenbeetle]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone breed a Jubilee with a Chocolate (not that I am trying to mix dfferent breeds of orps), just curious...Was just wondering what you might get is all. Thanks

 

[megalomaniac]

If the roo is chocolate and the hen is jubilee...

50% of the pullets will be chocolate partially spangled (with chocolate replacing the black in the feathers), 50% will be partially spangled jubilees
all the males will be partially spangled jubilees (although half of the males will carry one copy of the chocolate gene)

If the roo is jubilee and the hen is chocolate...

all the offspring will be partially spangled jubilees (but half the cockrels will carry the chocolate gene)

so... to create chocolate jubilees... start with a choc roo and jubilee hen... pick the chocolate pullets and breed them back to their brothers (hoping you got lucky and picked at least one brother carrying the chocolate gene), then from those offspring pick the best partially spangled chocolate rooster and repeatedly breed him back to regular jubilee hens.

after several generations of crossing back to regular jubilees (think 4 or 5), it will be possible to improve the partial spangling back to standard millie fleur pattern, but would be chocolate jubilee. IMO, with the mahogany groundcolor, there wouldn't be as much of a stark contrast between it and the chocolate, and the birds would not look as striking as jubilees with black. But I'm one of the few that has never cared for the chocolate color to begin with and never could figure out what all the rage was about it, so the end result would be more one of personal preference. A LOT of work over many years for a product which will likely end up as just 'meh'. It's hard to improve on just the standard jubilee, IMO.

 

[greenbeetle]

If the roo is chocolate and the hen is jubilee...

50% of the pullets will be chocolate partially spangled (with chocolate replacing the black in the feathers), 50% will be partially spangled jubilees
all the males will be partially spangled jubilees (although half of the males will carry one copy of the chocolate gene)

If the roo is jubilee and the hen is chocolate...

all the offspring will be partially spangled jubilees (but half the cockrels will carry the chocolate gene)

so... to create chocolate jubilees... start with a choc roo and jubilee hen... pick the chocolate pullets and breed them back to their brothers (hoping you got lucky and picked at least one brother carrying the chocolate gene), then from those offspring pick the best partially spangled chocolate rooster and repeatedly breed him back to regular jubilee hens.

after several generations of crossing back to regular jubilees (think 4 or 5), it will be possible to improve the partial spangling back to standard millie fleur pattern, but would be chocolate jubilee. IMO, with the mahogany groundcolor, there wouldn't be as much of a stark contrast between it and the chocolate, and the birds would not look as striking as jubilees with black. But I'm one of the few that has never cared for the chocolate color to begin with and never could figure out what all the rage was about it, so the end result would be more one of personal preference. A LOT of work over many years for a product which will likely end up as just 'meh'. It's hard to improve on just the standard jubilee, IMO.

Thank you. I agree the Jubilee's are awesome alone.. I just have two chocolate hens and cannot seem to find a chocolate rooster of breeding age so I was just curious, I am not a breeder just have chickens for a hobby, but have fallen in love with the English Orpingtons. and LF Cochin, got to love those big fluffy butts..lol