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Right, the issue was they had hidden split lavenders in their blue and splash birds and were thus getting black birds and declaring that black could be produced from Blue and Splash without understanding the actual genetics taking place. Of course you can use a blue bird in a lavender program just as you would a black, but there's no reason that I'm aware of to use lavenders in a BBS program and muddying up the genetics with them just causes confusion down the road for people who get chicks from you. That was all I was saying.