The Legbar Thread!

Does anyone know if this bird has legbar breeding? He hatched from a blue egg and had a yellow dot on his head as a chick. I know hes very dark and a bit heavy.



The legs should be yellow. Looks more like a hybrid or what people call and Easter Egger or Blue Egger. But definitely not a Cream Legbar.
 
Does anyone know if this bird has legbar breeding? He hatched from a blue egg and had a yellow dot on his head as a chick. I know hes very dark and a bit heavy.




Dark and heavy is not necessarily a bad thing for this breed. While his barring is dark and distinct his ear lobes are red and they should be white. HIs comb looks off to me and his chick down also looks unusual. HIs leg color is a bit pale but that happens with this breed and some say diet can ameliorate that a bit. His wing bay has gold denoting he is not double cream along with his very dark chestnut shoulders and colored back as well as some in his saddle area.He is a handsome rooster in his own right but I could not say with all assuredness that he is a pure Cream Legbar.
 
The legs should be yellow. Looks more like a hybrid or what people call and Easter Egger or Blue Egger. But definitely not a Cream Legbar.

Dark and heavy is not necessarily a bad thing for this breed. While his barring is dark and distinct his ear lobes are red and they should be white. HIs comb looks off to me and his chick down also looks unusual. HIs leg color is a bit pale but that happens with this breed and some say diet can ameliorate that a bit. His wing bay has gold denoting he is not double cream along with his very dark chestnut shoulders and colored back as well as some in his saddle area.He is a handsome rooster in his own right but I could not say with all assuredness that he is a pure Cream Legbar.

Well i know for sure his legs would be more yellow if he would stay out on the grass but he only stays in the concrete yard, they used to be yellow, a few other birds are the same.
I guess he must just be a mixed breed.

Thanks for the help =]
 
Does anyone know if this bird has legbar breeding? He hatched from a blue egg and had a yellow dot on his head as a chick. I know hes very dark and a bit heavy.



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Could you tell us more about his origins? Did you hatch him from someone else's eggs, or get him as a chick etc? That would be really helpful info to have.

Your rooster is really handsome but to me looks like a mixed breed. Given that he was hatched from a blue egg, he has a single comb with no evidence of Pea comb, it is logical that he is from a Cream Legbar (CL) hen but his lineage on the sire's side appears to be something else (if its pure) that is a single combed, yellow legged, red eared and barred as he looks like he has 2 copies of the barring gene (like maybe a Barred Holland though they are very rare). His chick down doesn't look pure wild type (notated as e+/e+ which is what a CL is) but rather looks like he is mixed with something else, maybe ER or e(b). Not sure what as I am not strong on down genetics.

You could toss the question over to the Cream Legbar hybird thread: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/825092/cream-legbar-hybrid-thread and see if someone has hatched a similar rooster. Also, Nicalandia is a great source on genetics questions and he may be able to look at the down and tell what the *other* parent looked like if the hen was a CL.
 
Hi Kathryn173 and
welcome-byc.gif
in case no has done so yet!

Could you tell us more about his origins? Did you hatch him from someone else's eggs, or get him as a chick etc? That would be really helpful info to have.

Your rooster is really handsome but to me looks like a mixed breed. Given that he was hatched from a blue egg, he has a single comb with no evidence of Pea comb, it is logical that he is from a Cream Legbar (CL) hen but his lineage on the sire's side appears to be something else (if its pure) that is a single combed, yellow legged, red eared and barred as he looks like he has 2 copies of the barring gene (like maybe a Barred Holland though they are very rare). His chick down doesn't look pure wild type (notated as e+/e+ which is what a CL is) but rather looks like he is mixed with something else, maybe ER or e(b). Not sure what as I am not strong on down genetics.

You could toss the question over to the Cream Legbar hybird thread: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/825092/cream-legbar-hybrid-thread and see if someone has hatched a similar rooster. Also, Nicalandia is a great source on genetics questions and he may be able to look at the down and tell what the *other* parent looked like if the hen was a CL.

Thanks,
I hatched him myself from an egg that i got from a friend (she has moved away now and i've lost her number or i would call her and ask.) She also had so many different breeds i wouldnt know where to start thinking of which. His parents were probably pure, whatever breed they were. It was a pale blue egg and if he had been a hen he was to lay blue eggs, have a large red single comb and be a grey colour. He was to be a very quiet bird but i think hes just a bit more jumpy because of the way he has been raised, he wasn't handled much appart from the first week or so. Thats all i know about him.
 






Female Cream Legbar with a head spot :)

As long as she has nice striping and the spot is small and distinct I don't think there is a problem.
That is about what she looks like, just not as dark brown overall but the spot is the same. I have her banded just to keep an eye on her. I know what hen she came from and I haven't gotten any other spotted pullets from her yet but wasn't sure what other breeders were doing.
 
As I was out changing water this morning, I took the time to observe the main batch of legbar chicks. I have them all banded by pen and such and I noticed that the chicks that stand out to me the most are from Ingrid, my original hen. Ingrid is the largest hen I have ever seen, in body she is closer to a minorca as far as size goes. I bred her back to her son who is much bigger than his father was and the chicks really show it. Watching them all run together, I'd say that a good comparison would be like comparing a hatchery leghorn chick with a show brahma chick, these are just massive! I haven't weighed either the hen or cockerel yet for exact weight but I'd say they are 1-2 lbs heavier than the other legbars I have. Now the ultimate plan is to take some of these line-bred jumbo legbar chicks and breed them to the rose combed project birds to get my ideal bird.

Anyone else working on size yet? The pair is wonderful other than Ingrid has more of a pinched tail and the rooster has the curve in the front of his comb but they are a work in progress.
 
As I was out changing water this morning, I took the time to observe the main batch of legbar chicks. I have them all banded by pen and such and I noticed that the chicks that stand out to me the most are from Ingrid, my original hen. Ingrid is the largest hen I have ever seen, in body she is closer to a minorca as far as size goes. I bred her back to her son who is much bigger than his father was and the chicks really show it. Watching them all run together, I'd say that a good comparison would be like comparing a hatchery leghorn chick with a show brahma chick, these are just massive! I haven't weighed either the hen or cockerel yet for exact weight but I'd say they are 1-2 lbs heavier than the other legbars I have. Now the ultimate plan is to take some of these line-bred jumbo legbar chicks and breed them to the rose combed project birds to get my ideal bird.

Anyone else working on size yet? The pair is wonderful other than Ingrid has more of a pinched tail and the rooster has the curve in the front of his comb but they are a work in progress.

I am going to do a little bit of size work this summer with a very large pullet I have growing out. Also sourcing a new cockerel from another breeder (we are doing a trade so good for both of us), not sure how much I am going to use him this year but next year for sure.
 
Lilly is my original "A" line hen. She is throwing the biggest offspring of the hens in my flock. She produced some good sized cockerels that were over 5# at 20 weeks old in 2012, but I culled them since they were all gold and brought in a cream cockerel with good type from another breeder that I thought would be better. I later felt regret for not keeping the best gold colored 2012 cockerel so the plan was to breed Lilly back to my original cockerel if I didn't see some good sized boys in the 2013 group. Paired with the cream cockerel in 2013 50% of Lilly's offspring were cream including the two cockerels with the best type and size. They were 5# 7oz and 5# 9oz. when I got them on the scale at about 6 months old. I am guessing they could gain another 1-1-1/2 lbs. All the hens in my breeding pen were in the top 25% of their pairings, so size should come along. Yes...I can defiantly see the difference between Lilly's offspring and the rest of the flock. My smallest hen to date was right at 3 lbs. She was won a ribbon at an egg show for her eggs (they were a nice saturated blue) but we sold her after she was a year old. A 3 lbs hen next to a 4-1/2 lbs hen looks tiny. :)
 
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Here are a couple of pics of my 10 month old cream legbar hens. There is also a marraduna basque in this pen. We call her the brown chicken. ;)


Here is the gold hackled and one of the cream hackled.




One with the basque.


Just two of the legbars. This is the better of the legbars, I think. She has more cream in her hackle and less black.


 

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