The Legbar Thread!

[rooboo]

I misquoted about the v-shape on the head, yes it was on the female, not the male.

 

[GaryDean26]

A quote by the esteemed Percy Roberts of AKC dog show fame - "The Standard is the blueprint, the Breeder is the builder, the Judge is the building inspector". Same thought for showing chickens (or cats, cows, horses, whatever)!!!!!!

A building blue print may call for a 2x4x8 wooden stud, but it doesn't tell the builder what to look for at the lumber store to make sure they are getting a good quality stud or how to avoid junk quality lumber that would compromise the integrity of the structure. A structure built to a blue print in a mild dry climate is not going to hold up the same as a structure build from the same materials to the same blue print in a hot humid climate, a mild wet climate, or a hot dry climate. The builder needs to know their area and what they have to do to not only put together a structure that meets the dimensions on the blue print, but that will also perform as desired in the location it is placed and in the elements it will face. If the building inspector comes and sees unleveled planes, warping, settling, cracking, etc.the builder can complain all they want about the blue print, but the building inspector is going to know it is not a case of the blue print lacking specification, but rather the builder lacking knowledge or experience, or from using the wrong materials, or from using the wrong building methods, etc.

You don't need to wait for a new breed standard, a new imported blood line, or for a miracle sport to pop out of your flock to improve your chickens. The tweaking that the judges will appreciate most are good vigor and health, signs of good care and conditioning, freedom from general defects, and signs of strong utilities and productivity. Yes, you have to meet the breed standard first, but we already know what that is for a Legbar. It is well established and documented. If there are any changes to the proposed APA standard it will be to correct errors in the "Blue Print" that can't be accomplished anyways (i.e. square peg in a round hole type things). A Legbar that shows well at an APA show would likewise show well at a show in the UK because both standards define the same birds and have the same goals in the structure and performance of the bird.

 

[rc50]

Well said GaryDean26 Well said!!!

 

[otakalhasas]

A building blue print may call for a 2x4x8 wooden stud, but it doesn't tell the builder what to look for at the lumber store to make sure they are getting a good quality stud or how to avoid junk quality lumber that would compromise the integrity of the structure. A structure built to a blue print in a mild dry climate is not going to hold up the same as a structure build from the same materials to the same blue print in a hot humid climate, a mild wet climate, or a hot dry climate. The builder needs to know their area and what they have to do to not only put together a structure that meets the dimensions on the blue print, but that will also perform as desired in the location it is placed and in the elements it will face. If the building inspector comes and sees unleveled planes, warping, settling, cracking, etc.the builder can complain all they want about the blue print, but the building inspector is going to know it is not a case of the blue print lacking specification, but rather the builder lacking knowledge or experience, or from using the wrong materials, or from using the wrong building methods, etc.

You don't need to wait for a new breed standard, a new imported blood line, or for a miracle sport to pop out of your flock to improve your chickens. The tweaking that the judges will appreciate most are good vigor and health, signs of good care and conditioning, freedom from general defects, and signs of strong utilities and productivity. Yes, you have to meet the breed standard first, but we already know what that is for a Legbar. It is well established and documented. If there are any changes to the proposed APA standard it will be to correct errors in the "Blue Print" that can't be accomplished anyways (i.e. square peg in a round hole type things). A Legbar that shows well at an APA show would likewise show well at a show in the UK because both standards define the same birds and have the same goals in the structure and performance of the bird.

True, true!

 

[fatcatx]

Can someone confirm for me that these are pullets? Up until now I've only had them with a solid head stripe, but these have broken stripes. They otherwise look like pullets with normal eye-lining thought the bottom one is a little lighter overall.

 

[RobG7aChattTN]

Can someone confirm for me that these are pullets? Up until now I've only had them with a solid head stripe, but these have broken stripes. They otherwise look like pullets with normal eye-lining thought the bottom one is a little lighter overall.

Still pullets. I had a few of those when I crossed my old rooster to his daughters. I'm not saying that it's a flaw but I had been looking for an unrelated replacement and I found one soon after. I sold them all so I don't know how they turned out.

 

[gotro17]

Help! My two legbar girls were exceptional layers... An egg a day, with a skip after 2 here and there. One hasn't laid in three days, and the other, two. We changed food but it was last week... I hope that's all that it is, but, the others let going.

 

[fatcatx]

Still pullets. I had a few of those when I crossed my old rooster to his daughters. I'm not saying that it's a flaw but I had been looking for an unrelated replacement and I found one soon after. I sold them all so I don't know how they turned out.

Thanks for the input!

 

[fatcatx]

Help! My two legbar girls were exceptional layers... An egg a day, with a skip after 2 here and there. One hasn't laid in three days, and the other, two. We changed food but it was last week... I hope that's all that it is, but, the others let going.

I would say the feed is most suspect unless you've had soaring temperatures like we've had this week. Mine usually take more frequent breaks when it gets hot.
Also my Legbars always want to lay in the bushes! Are yours penned 100% of the time?

 

[gotro17]

I would say the feed is most suspect unless you've had soaring temperatures like we've had this week.  Mine usually take more frequent breaks when it gets hot.
Also my Legbars always want to lay in the bushes!  Are yours penned 100% of the time?

I think you're right with the heat! They finally did lay yesterday (82 degrees) and not today (91!). I did peruse around in the bushes though, too, for good measure. They are penned full time, in a 600 sq ft run