The Legbar Thread!

[GaryDean26]

GaryDean26, Can you show us the Blaze male chick with a larger photo? The chick seems almost like it has some slate blue to it. .. is the slate blue color tone I see within the back stripping on your new Blaze cockerel.

 

[CibolaChooks]

Goats....yeah goats as a companion for my horse...like subliminal advertising the seed has been planted. How adorable!

Yes plus think of all the milk and cheese you will get.

Those little ones are darling! Love the crocked, half-up, half-down ears.

Yea i did too. i was a little worried being my first kids i didnt know they came out that way.

The cuteness factor in this thread is rising exponentially, and I am loving it.

So very cute, they just grow up to fast.

 

[redchicken9]

Thank-you on the close up, GaryDean26! Just trying to get a sense of variation in the lighter tones.
Steen, Yes, these goats are easy and more fun than I imagined. My two oberhasli couldn't be sweeter! Yet they are very much goats, still prone to getting after things, if the chance arises. Bought the older in milk, as a first freshner, the younger as a doeling, so this is our first season of kidding. Both are due within a few days of each other. It'll either be smooth or a bit crazy. We have kidding and emergency supplies, retired vets number, and friends who are more familiar, so I think we're ready. Did you assist with your goats? Every time we talk to relatives they want to know if we have babies yet. Next step, goat doula. Luckily, it's just as likely as I'll wake up and there they'll be!

 

[nicalandia]

I wanted to share the result from my Cream Legbar Hatch a few days ago.

Background: All of the eggs were home grown from our three Cream Legbar Flocks. Liam and Ice were both hatched on Greenfire Farm from their 2011 flocks (B & C respectivly). Blaze is our 2013 breeding cockerel that was breed on Pollo Poco Farm in Oklahoma from stock from Greenfire Farms. Blaze was paired with hens from Greenfire Farm's 2011 flock "A" as well as three pullets that were offspring from one hen paired with Liam and one hen paired with Ice.

Results: - 100% of the pullets from Blaze were the light down color. We only got one cockerel that was the light down color (shown in photo). We got 3 dark downed cockerels (not shown).
- Large head patches were visible on the pullets from Ice. Both cockerels and pullets had the dark down type.
- We only got pullet in this hatch from Liam. They also were the dark down type, but I was able to distinguish them from the pullets from Ice because the stripes were more a tan color from Liam and more a white color from Ice. Liam's chicks also seamed to have more a brown tone to the dark down than Ice's chicks.

Conclusion: The fact that 100% of the pullets and only 1/4 of the cockerels from Blaze were the light color seems to support the theory that the down type is a result of the sex-linked barring type. It also is telling me that at least one of the hens is that pen is carrying the light type.

Follow-up: I already know one hen that is carrying the light type because I did a test hatch with three eggs from each of the two foundation hens just a week after they were moved to the 2013 breeding pen with Blaze. I hatched the eggs in separate compartments in the incubator and one hen produced a light and dark colored cockered (The light surely sired by Blaze and the Dark possible by Blaze or Ice) and the other produced two dark Pullets (Both pullets I am guessing sired by Liam) and a darck cockerel (which could be sired by Liam or Blaze). Below is a photos of the cockerel from the test hatch with a pullet from the other hen next to it.



Every hatch is a new lesson to be learned!!!

Wow.. Thanks for the Field work finding.. I can Only Theorize on genetics, but you are actually doing the field work. Thanks

 

[lonnyandrinda]

The USPS has decided to cover their deficit they are going to charge a "fee" approximately 10 dollars per package for shipping of live animals, without in any way bettering the quality of their service. PLEASE take a minute to follow the link and click Submit a Formal Comment or send them an e-mail to the address listed and urge them NOT to do that. It may not sound like much but it ALREADY costs me $35-50 to ship a box of live chicks/birds. This $10 fee is going to choke small people like us. PLEASE pass the word around! This new regulation will apply to BEES, too, making our costs to bring in new stock for our beehives more expensive. PLEASE DO THIS! They are only accepting comments until May 24. https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/04/24/2013-09603/new-mailing-standards-for-live-animals-and-special-handling

 

[TwoBit]

Yea! I just finished reading this whole thread....it took me two weeks! I have just acquired two three week old cockerals and three week old pullets....dying for eggs already! Thanks to all for the awesome info I never would have 'discovered' cream legbarsif you weren't here.
Just for fun... Can anyone guess what these chicks are?

 

[ChicKat]

Yea! I just finished reading this whole thread....it took me two weeks! I have just acquired two three week old cockerals and three week old pullets....dying for eggs already!

Thanks to all for the awesome info I never would have 'discovered' cream legbarsif you weren't here.
Just for fun... Can anyone guess what these chicks are?

Hi TwoBit -
Welcome to the thread and to BYC -- quite a feat to read the whole thing! Now you deserve a diploma, or at least a pat on the back.

Glad to hear that you got Cream Legbars, looking forward to your pictures and postings. I know exactly what those chicks are --- cute chicks!!!!!

Seriously they look really nice. Maybe Ameraucanas? Do they have puffy cheeks? Where did they come from?

CLs do lay their first eggs around 24 weeks -- I have some here that waited an extra month beyond that -- I got them at about 20-weeks -- and I don't think they started until 28 or so -- but I think they may have had to fend for themselves more than most people's chickens -- don't think they were over-fed (or maybe fed much at all, as children -- hard to know when they are older chicks and you get them from someone you don't know...etc.

 

[ChicKat]

The USPS has decided to cover their deficit they are going to charge a "fee" approximately 10 dollars per package for shipping of live animals, without in any way bettering the quality of their service. PLEASE take a minute to follow the link and click Submit a Formal Comment or send them an e-mail to the address listed and urge them NOT to do that. It may not sound like much but it ALREADY costs me $35-50 to ship a box of live chicks/birds. This $10 fee is going to choke small people like us. PLEASE pass the word around! This new regulation will apply to BEES, too, making our costs to bring in new stock for our beehives more expensive. PLEASE DO THIS! They are only accepting comments until May 24. https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/04/24/2013-09603/new-mailing-standards-for-live-animals-and-special-handling

Hi lonnyandrinda,

the link goes to the regulations, but I didn't see a place to submit a formal comment on the link. Was it just me?

Thinking from their point of view, if they gave better service, would a 10.00 surcharge be worth it? They are the only shipper to transport live chicks aren't they? If the alternative was to scrap that service, would the small people like us be in worse shape? Trying to see all the angles. Thanks.

 

[lonnyandrinda]

I know I am irritated, people already complain about the price to ship chicks. Guess I'll be shipping more hatching eggs than chicks once it takes effect! I was talking about it on the Okie thread and a member there who used to work for USPS said in all her years there only once did they NOT enact a proposed rate hike. Thinking about the recent backlash about dropping Saturday service, it created enough outrage from the public to force them to back off but something like this is not going to create that same effect. Most people will think, ah, well, it doesn't affect me, let them do it. So I fear there is nothing we can do to really fight it. She said people can try contacting their congressmen or the Letter Carrier's Union.

When you click the link there is a green button at the top of the page that says "Submit a Formal Comment." It also says, "Email comments, containing the name and address of the commenter, may be sent to: [email protected], with a subject line of “Live Animals.” "

 

[1muttsfan]

It would be worth it if they gave better service. That, however, they do not promise, or even imply. What it says is that handling live cargo already costs them more, so they need to charge more to cover these extra costs, and for "educating" staff.

Scroll down to thre addresses section for contact information.
https://www.federalregister.gov/art...andards-for-live-animals-and-special-handling