Yes some times you get lucky like i did this evening but most of the time its like that.. people low ball ya to death or some will call ya 15 times to talk about it..And why can't I do that with the 13 BCM chicks I have right now!!I had someone offer me $2 a piece for them today because apparently $5 was "too high" for pure Black Copper Marans chicks with feathered legs.