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I just think it comes down to plain, old-fashioned respectful behavior towards people in general.Thanks Midnightroo. For those who dont know me I am the most accepting and loving person usually. I have friends from all walks of life, religions and beliefs because I accept people for who they are and dont judge. I even have friends who support Peta we just choose not to talk about it lol. What I dont like is unnaceptance. If someone wants to pray for me when Im sick. doesent matter what religion their in, Im humbled. If my vegan friends bring me some food Im flattered. Again its when things are shoved down someones throat that I have issues. Ive gotten into trouble before because of it XD. But then again Ive made some of the most amazing friends before of it as well! Faith, belief religious and non can be a beautifull thing.
I am in the process of getting goats. I was all ready to just let them free-range and go natural within my property boundaries (and still am). I think in terms of how deer have survived for ages without intervention. Someone pointed something, however, that made a lot of sense to me. They told me that when the deer need nutrients that they aren't finding in one place, they move to another. And another. And another. Because there is not the confinement of being fenced into one limited property to get all they need...even if the property has many acres, in the wild, they have access to many many miles to find what they need.
I have taken that into consideration as I'm getting ready to add more livestock and raise them "naturally".
This absolutely is how I raised my four infants in the beginning and I am all about safety in raising my poultry. Letting them all build immunities slowly. I won't vaccinate or use antibiotics.Some people do think bio security is unnatural. I wonder why.
Safety is important to me. There is nothing wrong with integrating a flock on a first day if you understand the risks and are willing to take that risk.
There is nothing unnatural about being safe either. IMO A hen will take her new chicks to an area where there is less traffic and less build up of poop the first few days. She lets them peck at her poop to build up immunities first, than will eventually let them be full time around the flock. Even a chicken knows the importance to a *little* at a time.
I am NPIP. Bio Security measures are part of that program.
The question was geared to safety and NPIP in Canada..
would the correct answer to be.*.this is a natural thread and we do not believe in safety and NPIP measures?* Again I am curious
Just a thought and yes, chickens are not infants or human, chickens are animals. I am using this as a visual only. Some will understand a bit more since most have experience.
New infants
You bring them home from the hospital and boil nipples, scrub all surfaces they touch, make sure no one has a cold and washes hands before handling. You don't do that to be unnatural, you do that to give the baby time to build immunities. Eventually you slowly tapper off and add new things and are not so *sanitizer* crazy. Unnatural? Perhaps to some.
So tell me why you think safety measures are not natural? i am curious.
We have fans in the coop, and it is 3 sided open (well wire) there is always (nearly) a breeze even w/o the fans but the chickens really like it especially on those 90 degree nights.I'm about to go out and put a fan on the coop, its not that hot, but humid as heck!
Leah's Mom, I don't know how much acreage you have, but take that advice about the deer with a grain of salt. Living in the piney woods of East TX, our property is crawling with white tail deer and, while they definitely do roam, I can tell you from observation that they tend to stay pretty close to the same place. We've been watching the same buck run around our place for years (he is atypical and very easy to identify). Our goats free range on our pastures and are so fat! If they were hurting for a nutrient of some kind, we would be able to tell by observing them. We do supplement with some goat feed (not every day and generally just in the winter) and garden scraps. As long as the property (i.e. grass) is healthy, there really wouldn't be any concern with them not being able to get all their nutrients without ranging for miles...
And just playing Devil's advocate here, but great-great-great grandma traveled quite a distance with her chickens (east to west). While those chickens came over land in a wagon (or in a boat maybe) rather than USPS, they did travel extensively. (Early frontier settlers did have chickens and those chickens came from somewhere...) So, I would bet there was quite a bit of chicken swapping going on back then too... Makes you wander exactly how, or if, they quarantined.
I agree. Super bugs and the fast method of transmission from mega hatcheries, at poultry shows and close proximity to neighbors.Without research it would hard to determine but I can wager a guess...
For one thing many of the diseases floating around today could have either not yet existed in North America, had not yet mutated into the highly contagious forms we have now or, the more likely scenario, there were far fewer chickens that were far more spaced out and/or the owners simply were not aware of what made their birds occasionally sick and simply replaced them.
Just my guess. With so many people owning so many chickens in close proximity there is a far higher risk.