The Sizzle Thread!

Okay Sizzlers!!! Question time
If you breed a white silkie hen to a red frizzle rooster, You get 3 white chicks all have yellow skin and 4 toes. One chick is frizzleing but can't tell yet if they will be silkie feathers or cochin feathers and the other 2 are smooth looks like cochin feathers. Are any of these good to keep breeding toward the sizzle goal? I am thinking if it is okay I could breed the smooth chicks back to the frizzle roo but that won't get me black skin and 5 toes that a sizzle has...or are those genes stilll in there somewhere? All help is appreciated.



They are a week old, The first one is the one whose feathers are frizzling. Did I mention it was a painted silkie hen...thus the reason for black spots.
 
This is the best place to learn.

Sizzle has curly reg feathers.
Smooth has strait reg feathers.

Both have all other characteristics of Silkies. If you breed a smooth to a Sizzle you will get a mixture of Sizzle, Smooth, Frizzle and Silkie in the offspring.

Do not breed two sizzle or frizzle together or you will get a bird with very brittle feathers called a Frazzle.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that.
excellent job K Epp, just wanted to add a bit....

when breeding a frizzled sizzle to say a silkie or a smooth bird (that is not split to frizzle but is split to silkie).
you will approximately get......

25% silkie split to frizzle
25% frizzled silkie (some times called rough silkies)
25% frizzled sizzle
25% smooth sizzle split to frizzle

* if your breeding your sizzle to a bird that does not have silkie in their gene pool you will not get any silkie offspring, both parents have to carry the silkie gene.

Frizzle just refures to the bird having the up word curl to their feathers or not.
And frizzles are available in just about every breed of chicken out there.
sizzles how ever should ideally have every characteristic of a silkie but with out the shredding of the feathers.(making silkies an ideal choice to cross with a sizzle)
But both smooth and frizzled birds are called sizzles as long as they have both silkie and frizzled in there gene pool.
and then all the offspring that have silkie feathers are just called silkies. they can be frizzled silkies or just regular silkies.

i think the confusion comes when people present silkie mixes that don't have frizzle in their heritage.
So why is it important to know if your chicken is a smooth sizzle or a silkie mix, if they both presents with smooth feathers and similar type??

The main reason becomes apparent when breeding them... if you use a smooth bird split to frizzle with a frizzle bird, you get a big jump in your percentages about 75% frizzled to 25% smooth. so its worth wild to hold on to the smooth sizzles!!!! a secondary perk come when you want to beed for a frizzled sizzle birds.
when you use a silkie not only will it not be split to frizzle, but you also increase the chances of getting mostly silkie or frizzled silkie chickens and not as many sizzles.

at least thats what my understanding is on the subject, all ways happy to learn if any ones else got input on it.
 
excellent job K Epp, just wanted to add a bit....

when breeding a frizzled sizzle to say a silkie or a smooth bird (that is not split to frizzle but is split to silkie).
you will approximately get......

25% silkie split to frizzle
25% frizzled silkie (some times called rough silkies)
25% frizzled sizzle
25% smooth sizzle split to frizzle

* if your breeding your sizzle to a bird that does not have silkie in their gene pool you will not get any silkie offspring, both parents have to carry the silkie gene.

Frizzle just refures to the bird having the up word curl to their feathers or not.
And frizzles are available in just about every breed of chicken out there.
sizzles how ever should ideally have every characteristic of a silkie but with out the shredding of the feathers.(making silkies an ideal choice to cross with a sizzle)
But both smooth and frizzled birds are called sizzles as long as they have both silkie and frizzled in there gene pool.
and then all the offspring that have silkie feathers are just called silkies. they can be frizzled silkies or just regular silkies.

i think the confusion comes when people present silkie mixes that don't have frizzle in their heritage.
So why is it important to know if your chicken is a smooth sizzle or a silkie mix, if they both presents with smooth feathers and similar type??

The main reason becomes apparent when breeding them... if you use a smooth bird split to frizzle with a frizzle bird, you get a big jump in your percentages about 75% frizzled to 25% smooth. so its worth wild to hold on to the smooth sizzles!!!! a secondary perk come when you want to beed for a frizzled sizzle birds.
when you use a silkie not only will it not be split to frizzle, but you also increase the chances of getting mostly silkie or frizzled silkie chickens and not as many sizzles.

at least thats what my understanding is on the subject, all ways happy to learn if any ones else got input on it.
 
I have a question. I have 2 roosters, one is black and looks like a pinecone and the other is a khaki color and is more silkie feathered. They both were hatched from the same parents. I have 7 Cochin/Silkie mix girls in with them. The girls are smooth feathered. Any ideas what I might get? I'm looking to try and start my own sizzle project. I understand (I think) that any smooth should be bred back to dad? I'll get pictures of them later and post them. Thanks!
 

This is Fredo, hatched from incubated egg. Rooster was Black Frizzle Cochin and Hen was a Silkie. These 2 birds have the same parents. 1 smooth sizzle and 1 frizzle sizzle!


This is Chicken Nugget at 4 weeks, hatched from incubated egg. Rooster was a black frizzled Cochin and Hen was a Silkie.

Other than the feathers, the only difference is that Fredo is more vein, looks at itself in the mirror constantly, and initiates play with the others. Fredo picks up a piece of wood shaving and plays "keep away" with the others. They are happy birds. Spoiled too!
 
I have a question. I have 2 roosters, one is black and looks like a pinecone and the other is a khaki color and is more silkie feathered. They both were hatched from the same parents. I have 7 Cochin/Silkie mix girls in with them. The girls are smooth feathered. Any ideas what I might get? I'm looking to try and start my own sizzle project. I understand (I think) that any smooth should be bred back to dad? I'll get pictures of them later and post them. Thanks!
 

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