The Supreme Court's Gun Ruling This Week - Not A Debate

[PurpleChicken]

Amazing, intellegent, peaceful, and some very sad responses here.


A few thoughts:

I don't believe the majority of college kids are mature enough to carry a gun nor
do I believe the majority of college kids have what it takes to be a marine.
Issues like Virginia Tech only polarize the issue more. In all human endeavors
bad things will happen. That is unavoidable.

WriterofWords I'm floored by what you have shared here. Your point is very
well taken, I hope by all.

No one who supports handgun bans should feel afraid to post their opinion here.
Everyones opinion is equally valueable here. This is a hot topic that should be
discussed.

I don't think Bush wants to declare martial law. When his term is done he will
walk away into history. Truman was equally disliked.

 

[summerwindsfarm]

When i was in hs at least 3/4 of the trucks in the parking lot had rifles in the back of them. The vast majority of them were unlocked. School shootings were completely unheard of. Teenagers shooting each other intentionately were unheard of.

What has changed? Parents aren't raising their kids..thats whats changed.

 

[cajunlizz]

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Yes they are college students who are no longer in college. I come from a long history of military officers, I was the only one to go enlisted. You can't compare handing a bunch of college kids in a dorm weapons, to giving them weapons with proper training IN the military. Some of the kids have grown up knowing how to shoot and respect weapons, most haven't.
You went FROM the dorm TO the Marines, you weren't handed a gun in your dorm room and told to have fun. If you are saying give them to college kids who have graduated from college, no longer live in the dorms and are now in the military that is a totally different idea that what you said above and that is fine, they will be taught how to use them properly.

Actually, I got my first concealed carry license (from New York, of all places) at age 18, when I was in high school. I had a S&W model 59 pistol, a Sako .243 rifle, and a pump-action shotgun in my dorm room all through college. Against college rules. If there had been a Virginia-Tech-like incident at my college, perhaps I could have stopped it sooner. I certainly couldn't have made it much worse.

My husband and I have a lady friend from Texas that was the 1st. Woman in State of Texas to have the 1st. Concealed Hand gun license in the state of Texas .

 

[WriterofWords]

You win, you get the cookie.

 

[The Chicken Lady]

Criminals will always have guns, and find ways to get guns. If guns were made illegal, the only people who wouldn't have them would be the law-abiding citizens.

I support our police force and believe they do the best job they can with the resources they have, but they can't be everywhere at once to stop crimes. I'd rather go down fighting the bad guy than becoming a victim without a chance.

If more law-abiding people had guns, I believe the crime rate would go down. Many criminals, especially the kids, are cowards at heart and would be afraid of meeting up with a store owner, teacher, or other citizen who had a gun and had no problem using it.

Columbine wouldn't have happened if the teachers had guns.

 

[Oblio13]

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We all have different life experiences. I like people who refuse to be victims. I have no beef with those who choose to be victims, until they try to impose that mindset on me through misguided laws.

I live in a quiet NH town where almost nothing bad ever happens. Sometimes people ask me why I'm always armed, and I say "Richard Douthart". About ten years ago, on the railroad tracks near my house, he stole some kids bike, after sticking a knife in his eye for fun, then cutting his throat.

I once had three gangsta-types confront me in a parking garage in Boston very late at night. I backed up against my car, put my hand on the butt of my pistol, and they left in a hurry.

When I was a young Marine officer-of-the-day (and a college student, by the way), a thief came through the window of a barracks. When he looked up, I was pointing a .45 at him. He was very cooperative while we waited for the MP's to arrive.

I'm a believer. Your mileage may vary.

 

[cajunlizz]

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my hubby faced with 2 adults , one white female 1 black male , trying to steal our baby chicks from their cage . MAN ran off as hubby was going outside with his rifle . HE held this woman at gun point , then decided to FREE her because he had no idea where this man had disappeared to and he could of been dealing with a major situation ..... SO she left . beleive it or not , he had this rifle in her face and gun wasn't even loaded . LOL


Trust me , I was inside waiting with a 45 automatic loaded if the situation got out of hand and his life or my life became threatend . WE would never fire a weapon UNLESS it was a life and death situation .

 

[1acrefarm]

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I agree 100%. I was one of those High School students that went hunting after school alot. I was not allowed to park on campus with my rifle in the truck though. I could park on the county road right of way or at the outer perimeter of the nearby grocery store parking lot. The manager of the grocery store was a deer hunter so he allowed the hunting students to park on his parking lot. With lots of students having weapons in their vehicles we never had a problem. You did see the occasional fistfight but no weapons ever came out. Some of us even used to go to another students house after school and practice in his dads backyard range.

 

[EweSheep]

Yeah I do remember those days that most pick up owners have guns in the back of their trucks! Now you dont see that anymore. I dont know when they discontinued it. Now in some fairs, alot of people have ropes, lariats, horse halters and dog leashes hanging instead of guns.

Our forefathers did have pistols(flintlocks) back those days but not as numberous as rifles. So I would assume both handguns and rifles consider as "arms" in their defination.

 

[keystonepaul]

Re: The Supreme Court's Gun Ruling This Week - Not A Debatekeystonepaul wrote:
... Sorry NRA members, there's more important things in life than whether I can keep and bear any and all varieties of automatic weapons man can dream up and make and desire...

That's not what the NRA is about at all. Sounds like you've fallen for the anti's slander and misrepresentation.

I agree that's not what they'r ALL about- haven't fallen for anyone's slander at all just believe my right to bear arms doesn't eliminate the truth that some weapons serve no purpose to the general public. The NRA believes they do (unless I've fallen for someones slander). I believe the NRA is wrong and that's a deal breaker. Did bash the NRA a bit when I reread my post, but the truth is I do believe a lot of the same as the NRA, just think I mix in a bit more commen sense and better judgement with my view. I could be wrong as could the NRA.


keystonepaul wrote:
... the ludicrousy of advocating for college age kids in a group setting to be armed...

You mean like our soldiers and Marines?

Almost entered the Navy nuclear power program- until I spent an overnight with kids who would be by my side aboard ship and those entering the army, marines, etc. before we took our entrance test and myself and several others took the nuclear power exam. There was enough pot and drugs in that hotel overnight to make me sick. Never did sign on the bottom line because of it. LOTS of good young folks in the military for sure, but LOTS of good folks who decided against it because they didn't want to depend on the pothead next to them in a crisis.
At Penn State I musta skipped the 6 week boot camp that would have properly trained me to even facilitate kids personal growth it woulda taken for us to carry a firearm around daily in such a short time and my RA coulda maybe been as responsible and controlling of my actions as A Drill instructor but he was too busy drinking himself.

Being armed tends to make you more polite, restrained and responsible. I put up with MUCH more poop from people when I'm armed than when I'm not. I think one of the reasons so many kids are not responsible is that they're never given responsibility.

and you'd agree the first time thier out on thier own and solely responsible for thier own actions is not the time bring em all together and arm them, right?

Someone wrote about being an unarmed volunteer security guard on campus and feeling the need for a gun. That's all the more reason for the money rich colleges and Universities to put some of that money back into keeping thier campuses safe with trained, payed, armed security, not unarmed student volunteers. Those days are sadly over. Keystonepaul