The Wyandotte Thread

[ki4got]

I did a bad bad thing...... my choc wyandotte pullet has a bad leg roo did something I am sure so I moved her to a sick pen. I had 2 slw that have gone bloody AGAIN so they are now with the choc split roo

Karen how man generations will that take to get choc laced silvers? like I need another project.

edit: re-writing it to make sense... chocolate is sexlinked recessive.

ok split roo to silver laced hens, you'll get some chocolate hens with incomplete lacing. pick best typed f1 girls (that are chocolate) and breed some back to sire (f2a), and some to the best typed silver laced roo you can (f2b).

the hens bred back to sire will produce some chocolate roos. use these in the next generation over silver laced. keep the best typed hens and roos.

breed the best choco hens to silver laced roos (producing split roos, cull the hens) and the best choco roos to silver laced hens (producing chocolate hens cull the roos)...

then from here on out, keep breeding the split roos to good silver laced girls and silver laced roos to the chocolate girls, until you get split roos and chocolate girls with great lacing. THEN cross the 2 lines back together, split roo over chocolate hen, to produce true chocolate hens and roos with good lacing.

so i'm thinking 3-4 generations ideally. possibly shorter but more likely longer. don't be tempted to cross incomplete lacing together, you'll just get a mess. too many genes that need to mesh, so you'd end up with like a 2% possibility of getting chocolate AND good lacing.

 

[DMRippy]

I did a bad bad thing...... my choc wyandotte pullet has a bad leg roo did something I am sure so I moved her to a sick pen. I had 2 slw that have gone bloody AGAIN so they are now with the choc split roo


Karen how man generations will that take to get choc laced silvers? like I need another project.

edit: re-writing it to make sense...   chocolate is sexlinked recessive.

ok split roo to silver laced hens, you'll get some chocolate hens with incomplete lacing. pick best typed f1 girls (that are chocolate) and breed some back to sire (f2a), and some to the best typed silver laced roo you can (f2b).

the hens bred back to sire will produce some chocolate roos. use these in the next generation over silver laced. keep the best typed hens and roos.

breed the best choco hens to silver laced roos  (producing split roos, cull the hens)  and the best choco roos to silver laced hens (producing chocolate hens cull the roos)...  

then from here on out, keep breeding the split roos to good silver laced girls and silver laced roos to the chocolate girls, until you get split roos and chocolate girls with great lacing. THEN cross the 2 lines back together, split roo over chocolate hen, to produce true chocolate hens and roos with good lacing.

so i'm thinking 3-4 generations ideally. possibly shorter but more likely longer.  don't be tempted to cross incomplete lacing together, you'll just get a mess. too many genes that need to mesh, so you'd end up with like a 2% possibility of getting chocolate AND good lacing.

thanks! must print that out. question. when breeding the choc pullets with incomplete lacing BACK to my choc split would the lacing they have get worse? I need to read that several times. the sex linking throws me curve balls. I was thinking only using the choc pullets from the first cross to slw roo and ALL the roos from that cross would be better laced and split for choc. bad idea?

 

[ki4got]

Quote: thanks! must print that out. question. when breeding the choc pullets with incomplete lacing BACK to my choc split would the lacing they have get worse? I need to read that several times. the sex linking throws me curve balls. I was thinking only using the choc pullets from the first cross to slw roo and ALL the roos from that cross would be better laced and split for choc. bad idea?
the ONLY purpose for breeding chocolate pullets back to the split sire, is to get a chocolate roo, so you can KNOW that you'll start getting some guaranteed split roos and chocolate pullets to start with... you could use cockerels from him now, but you can't tell splits from non-splits and would waste a lot of time test breeding each cockerel.

 

[DMRippy]

am I wrong in my thinking here.... a choc laced pullet would produce ONLY SPLIT ROOS right? since it is sex linked she only passes it to roos, but all roos right? but the benefit of crossing the choc laced pullets to slw roo would be better lacing quicker. I need to think on this... I need a computer to play with the calculator lol.

currently I have a split roo with a choc pullet. I am not keeping any blacks....but I am selling roos as splits is that not right......aaaahhhh



I MISSED SOME INFO. you SOME pullets to SLW roo and SOME to the split roo. I see I see! Two lines!

 

[ki4got]

am I wrong in my thinking here.... a choc laced pullet would produce ONLY SPLIT ROOS right? since it is sex linked she only passes it to roos, but all roos right? but the benefit of crossing the choc laced pullets to slw roo would be better lacing quicker. I need to think on this... I need a computer to play with the calculator lol.

currently I have a split roo with a choc pullet. I am not keeping any blacks....but I am selling roos as splits is that not right......aaaahhhh

I MISSED SOME INFO. you SOME pullets to SLW roo and SOME to the split roo. I see I see! Two lines!

yes, you work on 2 lines at once, one to get split chocolate with good lacing, the other to get chocolate pullets with good lacing, always going back to pure laced birds to get the lacing correct before crossing the chocolate splits onto the chocolate laced pullets.

I'm presuming that the roo you have right now is a solid not laced, right?

 

[DMRippy]

yes he is solid black. so I know it would take a bit to get the lacing right.

 

[ki4got]

yes he is solid black. so I know it would take a bit to get the lacing right.

I just had a duh moment... was thinking, no, all you need is a good line of chocolate hens to work with... but it takes a split roo to produce that chocolate hen. LOL *bang head here*

 

[Bleenie]

I got a few more pictures of my big guy today. He's really blossomed since the other roo left and I just adore him. Thanks so much PeakyBeaky!!!

 

[DMRippy]

yes he is solid black. so I know it would take a bit to get the lacing right.

I just had a duh moment...  was thinking, no, all you need is a good line of chocolate hens to work with...  but it takes a split roo to produce that chocolate hen. LOL  *bang head here*

well the slw are NOT broody now lol maybe eggs will follow soon......stay tuned.

 

[PeakyBeaky]

He looks so much like his father! Thanks for the pictures-the kids liked seeing him.

I got a few more pictures of my big guy today. He's really blossomed since the other roo left and I just adore him. Thanks so much PeakyBeaky!!!