They want to make it ALL illegal. What do you think of Senate Bill 510

[jason_boivin]

I contacted my senator.

Dear Mr. Boivin:


Thank you for contacting my office regarding S. 510, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Food Safety Modernization Act. I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts with me on this important topic.
Recent outbreaks of food-borne illnesses and nationwide recalls of contaminated food, from both domestic and foreign sources, highlight the need to update and strengthen our nation's food safety system. The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act is a bipartisan plan to modernize our food safety system while minimizing regulatory burdens, particularly on small farms and producers. The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 73-25 on November 30, 2010, with my support.


I voted to support this legislation for several reasons. For the first time, the FDA will have the authority and capacity to test widely for dangerous pathogens and to enforce recalls on contaminated food. The bill requires more frequent inspections of large-scale, high risk food production plants, and would subject imported foods to the same standards as those made in the United States. In response to legitimate concerns raised by small farmers and producers that new regulations would be too costly, the final legislation incorporated the Tester amendment to exempt small-scale agriculture. Finally, the bill specifically states that gardens or farms used for personal consumption are exempt from all new regulations.


The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act was discussed and debated by many players from the food industry throughout the committee process, with many of them endorsing the final legislation. The Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions approved the bill in December 2009, and it awaited deliberation by the full Senate until November 2010. The bill now moves to the House of Representatives for consideration.


Please be assured that my staff and I will continue to monitor this issue to ensure that all Virginians have access to safe, quality food. As the Senate continues to address food safety and other important issues facing the United States, your views will be very helpful to me and my staff. I hope that you will continue to share your views with us in the years ahead.


I would also invite you to visit my website at www.webb.senate.gov for regular updates about my activities and positions on matters that are important to Virginia and our nation.


Thank you once again for contacting my office.


Sincerely,




Jim Webb
United States Senator

 

[oswegoscott]

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Of course it's a conflict of interest. There is also plenty in banking and the Fed. Public safety and financial security are only a front. Man,"they" must have started a "false flag" factory
to fly over all the swill we've been fed. Figuratively,because literal swill has mostly been fabrication or extreme embellishment. I personally don't know of one person amongst friends and relatives
who's had trouble with Salmonella,E-coli,etc. Funny thing-- same goes for economic improvement- none have experienced that,either

 

[BlackBart]

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Bart- you now have a lovely new law. Bill C36. For all the folks who think more regulation is good

theres that word again Codex Alimentarius. very sneaky of them to stuff it inside, in small print.
I think the WHO (World Health Org) had all the countries agree to this and voting on it was just a formality............

http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/bill-c-36-an-act-respecting-consumer-product-safety-2/

 

[buildingmyark]

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[GardenerGal]

JoAnn_WI_4-H_Mom wrote: While I think that is terrible news, I still think it unlikely that they will have enough manpower to go after all the little guys saving seed and raising gardens in their back yards. The sky is not yet falling.


Did I miss something with this bill? Where does it specifically state or indicate that "little guys" won't be able to save seed or raise backyard gardens? ???

 

[ivan3]

GardenerGal wrote: Did I miss something with this bill? Where does it specifically state or indicate that "little guys" won't be able to save seed or raise backyard gardens? ?

I've been waiting for just about a month, through various threads on this matter, to have someone post up the language from this bill that does just that. Not one taker, so far. The language, from the bill, that was posted up, as being suspect, was actually the list of what constituted a Regulated Facility (from the 2002 Food Safety and Bioterrorism Act) and claiming that the rules regarding them applied to everyone (it does no such thing - it reiterates the 2002 language).

I've posted up images from the actual bill and the exemptions from the 2002 law which this bill conforms with (414/415 of the Food Drug and Cosmetics Act).

I've also posted up the Supreme Court decision that is the actual law that will be cited if the black helicopters land in one's backyard (Monson) "intrastate activity is inextricably bound up with interstate commerce." This decision arose from the Public's acquiescence in allowing the drug war to continue - it has nothing to do with food but, this is what will be the justificaton for entry (already doing it and getting innocent people killed - even before Monson: http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/ S510 has nothing to do with anyone's backyard (if you have the actual language from the bill to contradict this, please, post it up).

Of course, everyone wanted the gov. to go after those terrorists/anthrax in 2001 (so we have the 2002 Food Safety and Bioterrorism Act), the only folks complaining then were those Regulated Facilities getting the increased paperwork. Nearly every complaint about S510 is actually a complaint about the 2002 rules as S510 is nothing more than rather modest extension/clarification of the 2002 Act. This is why I can get so few takers on my requests for facts (always end up asking why they are complaining about rules that have been in place for the past 8 years).

Links to blogs with other's opinions are worthless. Only the actual language and, in about two years from now, the actual regs and how many inspectors will be assigned (where is the money coming from for the army of new inspectors? What new inspectors?).

Aside: In Bayer Vs. FDA (FDA successfully ended the use of Baytril in poultry), it was stipulated that fewer people who handled/prepared raw chicken in the home developed GI symptoms from Campylobacter than did those people who ate chicken in restaurants (restaurant customers were actually getting the Campylobacter from the Wait staff human-to-human not chicken-to-human). Resistant strains actually appeared at the same rate in outdoor flocks as in treated `factory' chickens. The outdoor flocks lived longer (factory chooks 8wks) so more generations of Campylobacter, etc. So, as a `growth promoter', Baytril didn't present that great a risk in exposing eventual customers of the chicken to resistant strains. Duh, wear a mask at Walmart, wash one's hands and cook one's meat thoroughly and all is copacetic - very low risk from most sources unless one's immune system is already compromised). However, I'm betting that very few folks disagree with the FDA's banning of the use of Baytril in commercial poultry: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/04/mar04/031604/00n-1571-idf0001-vol389.pdf

Of course, just to fan the flames, we're next: http://www.epa.gov/ppcp/faq.html

By the way, folks, Monsanto sold Posilac to Eli Lilly back in `08: http://newsroom.lilly.com/releaseDetail.cfm?releaseid=329001
If anyone wants to contact Mike Taylor he's at: [email protected]
If you want his phone number just search personnel: http://directory.psc.gov/​

 

[Hillsvale]

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Link?

This bill per my google is oon CPP and old age security...

Huh,really? http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2010/12/15/bill-c-36-is-now-law/

Yup.... kept hunting, found the OAS/CPP reform, an anti-terrorism... then finally the bit on food.

The radio here yesterday was commenting on a food bank in Ontario that used to receive up to 50 dozen eggs a month from one generous family are no longer allowed to donate the eggs... its a shame that they went to this extent, even increasing their flock to assist hungry families and now the food bank is not allowed to distribute. I had hopes to be able to help with something along these lines... perhaps meat too (all but the meat chickens are done at an inspected facility) but it sounds like that would be regulated too...

http://www.northumberlandtoday.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=1349335

 

[ijon1]

Tic, tic, tic. Thats the sound of our rights being taken away.

 

[oswegoscott]

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I've been waiting for just about a month, through various threads on this matter, to have someone post up the language from this bill that does just that. Not one taker, so far. The language, from the bill, that was posted up, as being suspect, was actually the list of what constituted a Regulated Facility (from the 2002 Food Safety and Bioterrorism Act) and claiming that the rules regarding them applied to everyone (it does no such thing - it reiterates the 2002 language).

I've posted up images from the actual bill and the exemptions from the 2002 law which this bill conforms with (414/415 of the Food Drug and Cosmetics Act).

I've also posted up the Supreme Court decision that is the actual law that will be cited if the black helicopters land in one's backyard (Monson) "intrastate activity is inextricably bound up with interstate commerce." This decision arose from the Public's acquiescence in allowing the drug war to continue - it has nothing to do with food but, this is what will be the justificaton for entry (already doing it and getting innocent people killed - even before Monson: http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/ S510 has nothing to do with anyone's backyard (if you have the actual language from the bill to contradict this, please, post it up).

Of course, everyone wanted the gov. to go after those terrorists/anthrax in 2001 (so we have the 2002 Food Safety and Bioterrorism Act), the only folks complaining then were those Regulated Facilities getting the increased paperwork. Nearly every complaint about S510 is actually a complaint about the 2002 rules as S510 is nothing more than rather modest extension/clarification of the 2002 Act. This is why I can get so few takers on my requests for facts (always end up asking why they are complaining about rules that have been in place for the past 8 years).

Links to blogs with other's opinions are worthless. Only the actual language and, in about two years from now, the actual regs and how many inspectors will be assigned (where is the money coming from for the army of new inspectors? What new inspectors?).

Aside: In Bayer Vs. FDA (FDA successfully ended the use of Baytril in poultry), it was stipulated that fewer people who handled/prepared raw chicken in the home developed GI symptoms from Campylobacter than did those people who ate chicken in restaurants (restaurant customers were actually getting the Campylobacter from the Wait staff human-to-human not chicken-to-human). Resistant strains actually appeared at the same rate in outdoor flocks as in treated `factory' chickens. The outdoor flocks lived longer (factory chooks 8wks) so more generations of Campylobacter, etc. So, as a `growth promoter', Baytril didn't present that great a risk in exposing eventual customers of the chicken to resistant strains. Duh, wear a mask at Walmart, wash one's hands and cook one's meat thoroughly and all is copacetic - very low risk from most sources unless one's immune system is already compromised). However, I'm betting that very few folks disagree with the FDA's banning of the use of Baytril in commercial poultry: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/04/mar04/031604/00n-1571-idf0001-vol389.pdf

Of course, just to fan the flames, we're next: http://www.epa.gov/ppcp/faq.html

By the way, folks, Monsanto sold Posilac to Eli Lilly back in `08: http://newsroom.lilly.com/releaseDetail.cfm?releaseid=329001
If anyone wants to contact Mike Taylor he's at: [email protected]
If you want his phone number just search personnel: http://directory.psc.gov/

Did you know that Monsanto bought Blackwater (the mercenary outfit)? Guess they need protection for their execs and enforcers for the GM products.

 

[oswegoscott]

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Huh,really? http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2010/12/15/bill-c-36-is-now-law/

Yup.... kept hunting, found the OAS/CPP reform, an anti-terrorism... then finally the bit on food.

The radio here yesterday was commenting on a food bank in Ontario that used to receive up to 50 dozen eggs a month from one generous family are no longer allowed to donate the eggs... its a shame that they went to this extent, even increasing their flock to assist hungry families and now the food bank is not allowed to distribute. I had hopes to be able to help with something along these lines... perhaps meat too (all but the meat chickens are done at an inspected facility) but it sounds like that would be regulated too...

http://www.northumberlandtoday.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=1349335

Used to be we could donate wild game and road-killed deer (fresh) to pantries and old-age homes. Big biz stopped that under the guise of health issues.
Has anyone here ever gotten ill from game? Friends or family? My family has eaten it "forever" and I know of no illnesses from game or wild fish.