Those who need help in sexing peafowl

[casportpony]

Isn't that what pedda said?

-Kathy

 

[Birdrain92]

pedda got the IB on the far left and the BS on the right. I don't know if pedda mentioned the peacock under the 6 peafowl perched.

 

[casportpony]

Six birds on the rail from left to right I think pedda said:

1) IB male
2) BS male
3) BS hen
4 and 5) BS pied pair
6) IB or BS male

So which one is wrong?

-Kathy

 

[frenchblackcopper]

Yoda,,DO NOT RISK LIFE AND LIMB to get pics to explain to a hedge post their sex.DNA and VENT sexing along with the attending veterinarian or PhD degreed titled experts signed affidavitt would not be proof enough,,proving facts means nothing in this thread,nor does the credentials of some of the best in Peafowl(meaning George Conners) nor does the combined experience in years of breeding and raising peafowl of the members here account for squat. It's as pointless as pounding dirt in a mouse hole,,complete waste of time. It has to be a sickness that is not treatable.

 

[Yoda]

if you look through the rails you will see the head of the 7th peacock under the 6 perch on the railing'

Casport so far the surgery went good I see the doctor Monday. They gave me Oxycontin for the pain boy that crap hits me hard but doesn't really take the pain away LOL just makes me dizzy and sleepy.

 

[MinxFox]

Also Calypso isn't a Spalding because last I checked to have a Spalding peafowl you need an ancestor that is a green peafowl. Thor and Calypso are siblings they came from the same mother and father which were both pure bred IB Pieds.

I know it will be pointless explaining this, but where are the papers saying the parents are pure bred IB pieds? You said the breeder your birds came from gets their birds from a hatchery. I have been on a hatchery website and saw that they were using the photo of an India blue peacock to illustrate what a green peafowl looked like. I don't deal with hatcheries but it seems like you get lots of mix ups at hatcheries and a lot of bird mixes.

Yes to be a spalding bird you do need an ancestor that was a green peafowl. The mother or father do not have to be a green to produce a spalding chick, they just have to have some green blood in them which might not be very noticeable. What can be super annoying with spalding peafowl is they vary so much. On one extreme you have some that are almost exactly like a green peafowl an example would be this spalding:
http://texaspeafowl.com/DSC_9766.JPG

Then you will have some that have less green blood:
http://www.amyspeacockparadise.com/05spaldingwe2.jpg

There are several reasons why Calypso is a spalding - A main reason is the dark rust colored breast feathers she has, another reason is the color of her legs. Time will tell how much of her spalding characteristics show. She doesn't have a ton of spalding, but it is noticeable. Also, this photo that looks like Calypso: http://database.amyspeacockparadise.com/spaldingyearlinghen.jpg of someone else's peahen is titled "Spalding hen" and is on this page: http://database.amyspeacockparadise.com/spalding.shtml

Just for kicks here is a photo of a spalding pied peahen I just found on the internet - Notice how much she really looks like a peacock, but is not. http://www.fouroakspeafowl.com/files/SpaldingPied12.27.13.jpg
Green blood does crazy stuff to peafowl, especially peahens because while India blue peahens have a green neck, light crème chest, and brown body, a green peahen looks almost exactly like a green peacock. Therefore spalding blood can make peahens look more like a peacock.

 

[Birdrain92]

That's why he never asks for peachicks he get adults that are 4 to 5 years old most of the time. When there that old you can easily tell. Calypso has not even a drop of green peafowl blood in her. Neither does Thor. When you pick the bird up yourself you know what you're looking for. They started with IBs then worked their way to whites, purples, pied, silver pied, cameo, and BS. 1 and 6 are the only ones right. There is a peacock under the 6. Legs aren't a good source, Jadea has dark legs just like Calypso. Is everybody going to change their mind now that I said that and how when I get a breast feather that everybody wanted to see to prove what sex Thor is and when I get it then everybody denies that it can't be a male though I've had people come and take a look at this feather and compare it to other male feathers and they tell me how can you say that feather is a peahen when it's obviously a peacock feather.

 

[Birdrain92]

I can find photos of IB peahens were the speckled feathers go down to the legs each hen's breast pattern is different.

 

[Rosa moschata]

Spring is right around the corner. So either in a couple months, or by next year for sure, the truth will become evident. I say just let the topic die and allow the birds to mature and provide a lesson to this young peafowl owner. Whether or not people here are successful in convincing him of what they think is rather obvious is irrelevant to how apparent their sexes will be when they are in mature plumage. I can remember a few years back asking here about why peafowl breeders don't try combining color mutations and felt like I hit a brick wall of "that's not possible." I tried justifying why it is, indeed, possible, but I eventually realized that some people need to see the evidence for themselves. As time went on, that evidence presented itself. So I'd say to let the same process continue here.

 

[zazouse]

I can find photos of IB peahens were the speckled feathers go down to the legs each hen's breast pattern is different.

But how will you know if they are true IB hens just by picking a photo off the web? As i said way back any green blood no matter how minute will make an IB a spalding weather it shows a little alot or not at all.



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