Toddlers are Quackers

Yeah, I agree. My first one was nice, pretty relaxed for hospital. I was young, gave her up because I wasn't ready to have babies really, and there were so many people out there who can't have babies. She went to a couple who tried for 9 years before they successfully had one baby, but they wanted a big family and that was never going to happen. 9 years of miscarriage before they had one baby, so thats the family I chose. At the hospital, I got to go freely, and all the doc did was pop my water and then let me wander some more until labor kicked my butt and it was time. I never had to get an IV, as i was adamant that I didn't want one. That was 13, almost 14 years ago! Then, when I was in having my second and my husband's first, we got asked when we'd like to schedule the baby's birth. That sort of red flagged me right then, but being naïve, I let the doctor pen us in for a date. Worst. Birth. Ever. I hate hate hate needles, and would start to hyperventilate every time they started to prod me, and at one point, they threatened that I would need a cesarean if I didn't calm down. I finally calmed down enough to get through, but I couldn't get up and move around and they insisted on giving me pitosen, which I didn't want or need. I felt trapped, and giving birth like that, as you guys know, can be stressful. After that, my husband was very upset and suggested home birth. I agreed immediately and we have loved it.
 
Yeah, I agree. My first one was nice, pretty relaxed for hospital. I was young, gave her up because I wasn't ready to have babies really, and there were so many people out there who can't have babies. She went to a couple who tried for 9 years before they successfully had one baby, but they wanted a big family and that was never going to happen. 9 years of miscarriage before they had one baby, so thats the family I chose. At the hospital, I got to go freely, and all the doc did was pop my water and then let me wander some more until labor kicked my butt and it was time. I never had to get an IV, as i was adamant that I didn't want one. That was 13, almost 14 years ago! Then, when I was in having my second and my husband's first, we got asked when we'd like to schedule the baby's birth. That sort of red flagged me right then, but being naïve, I let the doctor pen us in for a date. Worst. Birth. Ever. I hate hate hate needles, and would start to hyperventilate every time they started to prod me, and at one point, they threatened that I would need a cesarean if I didn't calm down. I finally calmed down enough to get through, but I couldn't get up and move around and they insisted on giving me pitosen, which I didn't want or need. I felt trapped, and giving birth like that, as you guys know, can be stressful. After that, my husband was very upset and suggested home birth. I agreed immediately and we have loved it.
My second was my husbands first. We have secondary infertility... so it took almost 5 years to get pregnant with my oldest daughter. It was his first birth experience, but my second. I was soooo scared of a repeat of my first experience, I told my husband "If I'm going to die, I want to do it in my own bed. Not in a hospital where they kill me on accident." LOL

He finally said okay, as long as we had a midwife, and everything looked okay.

It went smoothly, and he's never had a problem with me giving birth since then. Even my c-section was because of giving birth to twins, at 24 weeks. baby A was head down and coming out, the doctor pushed him back in and wouldn't let me have a natural birth. If they had been just a few weeks older, I could have fought him on it, but at 24 weeks exactly, he could have fudged the numbers to say babies weren't viable. He held the "do you want me to call the nicu team, or let them die" over my head, when I wanted to try to have them naturally.

However, I was an ideal candidate for a vbac, since I've had vaginal births before and my labors and births go smoothly when left alone to nature.
 
Wow twins are rough. I'm not sure if I could handle twins, either giving birth to them or the double diaper duty they would create. Hard enough one at a time!
 
The big issue with modern medicine and western birthing practices is they treat it as an illness and everything is an emergency to which they react with fear and end up causing more problems than stopping our preventing them
 
The big issue with modern medicine and western birthing practices is they treat it as an illness and everything is an emergency to which they react with fear and end up causing more problems than stopping our preventing them
Exactly. And don't get me wrong, I respect needing interventions and having it available... but we treat birth like it's something about to go wrong.

Do you know that we have higher mortality rates in both moms and babies than a lot of the more hands-off countries? If modern medicine was so amazing, how is that possible?
 
Totally agree. After growing up following my mom around during emergencies, I saw all the bad things that could happen in many mammalian births. But I also realized that it was a small fraction if her total clients that ever required intervention. That aside, humans do have abnormally high problems with giving birth due to our skulls and the mother's pelvis from standing upright. Even so, bulldogs have it worse than people.
 
Totally agree. After growing up following my mom around during emergencies, I saw all the bad things that could happen in many mammalian births. But I also realized that it was a small fraction if her total clients that ever required intervention. That aside, humans do have abnormally high problems with giving birth due to our skulls and the mother's pelvis from standing upright. Even so, bulldogs have it worse than people.
They also make it worse, by not breeding bulldogs who can give birth naturally and just doing c-sections. It's ruining the breed.

If and when I ever own an English bulldog (I've always wanted one.) I intend 100% to make sure I buy from a breeder who breeds to make sure their bitches can whelp naturally. They do exist, but so many people just assume it's an automatic c-section.
 

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