thanks for the information! iv had some experience with showing birds whose in charge, my Muscovy drake thought he was king for a while but now just hangs out with me instead of constantly biting. im finding it difficult to find these geese in my area (southwestern Ontario) but hopefully by spring I will have some luck. the research iv done on them so far has been good, and they sound like just the bird I want. ill let you know if I find any! thanks again