TREAT THEM FOR WORMS NOW -Molting - short days - few or no eggs anyway

[trilyn]

Another question......instead of tossing the eggs...can I incubate them instead?

 

[dawg53]

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Could you provide those links that I was alluding to regarding ivermectin not working, where it shows up in eggs and where it still kills lice/mites?...I might have them typed wrong or something. Thanks.

 

[dawg53]

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I dont know, I've never incubated eggs...sorry.

 

[joebryant]

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I did that when I was giving them their medicine as a preventative for their catching the respiratory infection/fungus that the vet had my rooster for for a week. I put them under broody hens, and I now have eleven five-week-old bbs Orpington chicks.

 

[BlacksheepCardigans]

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Could you provide those links that I was alluding to regarding ivermectin not working, where it shows up in eggs and where it still kills lice/mites?...I might have them typed wrong or something. Thanks.

Are you talking about this one: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0450.1989.tb00635.x/abstract ?

 

[dawg53]

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Could you provide those links that I was alluding to regarding ivermectin not working, where it shows up in eggs and where it still kills lice/mites?...I might have them typed wrong or something. Thanks.

Are you talking about this one: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0450.1989.tb00635.x/abstract ?

Yes, thank you ...it figures, I had it all messed up, me and computers dont get along lol.

 

[trilyn]

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I did that when I was giving them their medicine as a preventative for their catching the respiratory infection/fungus that the vet had my rooster for for a week. I put them under broody hens, and I now have eleven five-week-old bbs Orpington chicks.

Oooooh, I'm gonna try it! Thanks for the prompt replies!!!

 

[Beekissed]

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Good point Joe, I never thought of it that way. My way of thinking is if someone is sensitive to the poison residue in the egg, that there could possibly be an adverse reaction to it no matter how slight it is. Also, poisons get flushed/filtered through our kidneys/liver and then excreted, it cant be good for the organs. In a human, I would suspect and I'm not sure about this, that there might be cumlative effects over time...like how smoking affects the lungs over time. I'm just guessing on this, I could be wrong. However, there are traces of wormer in eggs after dosing. I observe the usual 14 day withdrawal period. Granted, wormers are given to people, under a doctors supervision. To suggest that we have worms or I have worms isnt true; unless anyone here has been to a foreign country, or here, have eaten uncooked meats/fish or uncleansed food, has the risk of picking up unwanted parasites. There's a greater risk of picking up a pathogen ie... the recent salmonella outbreak for example, rather than worms. If a person has worms, I can assure you that you're gonna know it sooner or later because they will eventually tear up the insides of your body, and some will even work their way out through the skin. Yup, then I'd need a wormer without having worm resistance after eating all those eggs that had residue in them.



So...humans are immune to intestinal parasites unless they've been to tropical countries? Keep telling yourself that!

When I was young, everyone got their spring dose of meds for pin worms...and yes, most every kid had them. I can't imagine that fact has changed...especially now when more children and adults are exposed to more pets than ever. If your pet has worms, you've been exposed to and have ingested worm eggs and are possibly hosting worms.

No, they won't tear through your body or your skin...no more than they do your pet's bodies or skin. They just quietly cycle in your intestines. When they eventually die and come out, they are no longer recognizable as worms as their bodies have decayed and become part of your digested fecal matter.

My sister is a surgical nurse and has witnessed a teenage girl whose entire digestive tract was filled with worms to the degree that she was having problems breathing and swallowing. My own cousin's little girl started choking one day and coughed up worms...they were coming out of her mouth and nose.

Yes, they are out there....or IN there. Just because you do not see them~as Joe Bryant so carefully pointed out~doesn't mean they are not present.

 

[Robin'sBrood]

Beekissed, I'm about to toss my cookies!

I took a parasitology class in college and it's amazing I can still eat any animal protein at all...

 

[joebryant]

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Good point Joe, I never thought of it that way. My way of thinking is if someone is sensitive to the poison residue in the egg, that there could possibly be an adverse reaction to it no matter how slight it is. Also, poisons get flushed/filtered through our kidneys/liver and then excreted, it cant be good for the organs. In a human, I would suspect and I'm not sure about this, that there might be cumlative effects over time...like how smoking affects the lungs over time. I'm just guessing on this, I could be wrong. However, there are traces of wormer in eggs after dosing. I observe the usual 14 day withdrawal period. Granted, wormers are given to people, under a doctors supervision. To suggest that we have worms or I have worms isnt true; unless anyone here has been to a foreign country, or here, have eaten uncooked meats/fish or uncleansed food, has the risk of picking up unwanted parasites. There's a greater risk of picking up a pathogen ie... the recent salmonella outbreak for example, rather than worms. If a person has worms, I can assure you that you're gonna know it sooner or later because they will eventually tear up the insides of your body, and some will even work their way out through the skin. Yup, then I'd need a wormer without having worm resistance after eating all those eggs that had residue in them.



So...humans are immune to intestinal parasites unless they've been to tropical countries? Keep telling yourself that!

When I was young, everyone got their spring dose of meds for pin worms...and yes, most every kid had them. I can't imagine that fact has changed...especially now when more children and adults are exposed to more pets than ever. If your pet has worms, you've been exposed to and have ingested worm eggs and are possibly hosting worms.

No, they won't tear through your body or your skin...no more than they do your pet's bodies or skin. They just quietly cycle in your intestines. When they eventually die and come out, they are no longer recognizable as worms as their bodies have decayed and become part of your digested fecal matter.

My sister is a surgical nurse and has witnessed a teenage girl whose entire digestive tract was filled with worms to the degree that she was having problems breathing and swallowing. My own cousin's little girl started choking one day and coughed up worms...they were coming out of her mouth and nose.

Yes, they are out there....or IN there. Just because you do not see them~as Joe Bryant so carefully pointed out~doesn't mean they are not present.

Beekissed, I can remember having them when I was a kid in Kentucky, and you could see them when you used the outdoor toilet. There they were everytime you bothered to look. I imagine that a lot more people have them than what's suspected. I think my mother gave us kids something for them, but I don't recall its having worked. Maybe humans need to have periodical fecal tests along with their animals.