Trying to nip this in the bud.

[sourland]

That is what I was hoping for, just killing one or two and then having a reputation in the coyuote packs for my place being a bad place to be.

Of course there is also the possibility that they might just become smarter and more careful.

 

[Bigtom Turkey]

Of course there is also the possibility that they might just become smarter and more careful.

True, I am hoping to not wipe out the pack (but I will if they take some of my birds) just show them that there is easier prey elswere.

 

[Weetamoo93]

A while back I read a National Geographic article concerning the wolf revival up in northern states. There was concern with the wolves harming livestock, but several ranchers reported success with regularly patrolling their pastures as deterring the wolves along with removing any dead livestock.

I'm not sure how much this would work with coyotes or how much land you have, but I figured I throw it in as an option. I'm not opposed to killing problem animals either, but would much rather deter as you'd stated if possible.

 

[cmom]

I know you said electric wires aren't an option for you but did you read this website I posted earlier. I'm sure you must have fenced in your pastures somewhat for your animals. It doesn't have to be an AC fence charger there are also DC and solar fence chargers. So far nothing has gotten past my hot wires. I have seen a couple of spots awhile back where something did attempt to dig under the fence but aborted the attempt once it got zapped. Granted the hot wires won't affect aerial predators but will deter ground predators. Maybe that's why I haven't seen many in quite awhile because they know it's a lost cause and can't get past the hot wires??? Most predators first examine things first with their noses. Again, good luck...

http://www.plamondon.com/wp/faq-simple-electric-fences-chickens/

 

[cmom]

There is only one trap to deal with. And I am trying to leave a lot of human scent around but they keep coming, so if I leave enough scent to keep them away then that is fine by me. I am not catching them for them I am catching them so they don't kill my birds

This is what an old time trapper told me some years ago. He was into trapping wild hogs. He is a smoker and flips his ashes and butts wherever. He was asked about hiding his scent, he replied that whatever he is trapping, his scent has never been an issue. They know he's been there but still go into the traps. I don't know if this is true but he caught a lot of hogs.

 

[Bigtom Turkey]

Thanks everybody for your responses I will start trapping, and will look into electric fencing. The reason I am oposed to electric fencing is that for 4 years we had a 6 wire electic fence rated for cows and horses. We used to sheep and goats, and not only did we loose many lambs/kids we also had problems keeping the sheep in

 

[bobbi-j]

We used to sheep and goats, and not only did we loose many lambs/kids we also had problems keeping the sheep in

I’ve never raised sheep, but would that be because their wool would insulate them from the electric fence?

 

[cmom]

It depends on the fence charger. The one I have now will hurt you if you touch it. Some I have had one that put out about the strength of a bee sting. Others I have had was a bit stronger. A fence charger good for around 25 miles or 1+ joules will shock you enough that you don't want to touch it again. One that is around 7000 volts will keep most predators at bay with maybe the exception of a bear.
Here are a couple of good threads on electric fencing.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/electric-fence-basics.1398976/
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/a-treatise-on-electric-fencing.1117877/

 

[Bigtom Turkey]

I’ve never raised sheep, but would that be because their wool would insulate them from the electric fence?

That is what we were thinking but the goats got out to and they don't have that much hair in summer...

 

[cmom]

Do you have a picture of your fence charger?