I won't do the toe punch either. I refuse to hurt them in any way, except for killing them in the quickest way possible. While they're living here, they are treated with the same respect as people. That's part of why I started raising my own, to prevent my family helping the abuse/neglect of commercial animals for food. Animals DO feel pain. I'm no animal rights nut, but I fully believe that animals deserve the same respect. When I die, I certainly don't want to be tortured first. I want a good life before I'm sh*t-canned, lol. So, I treat the animals the same.