Unemployment almost 10% nationally

[booker81]

A lot I believe is also the shift of what type of work is out there. The factory jobs aren't done by people, they are done by machines. There are jobs out there and available are for people who can make those machines do what a human used to do, but it's not the same skill set.

The company I work for will pay a Senior Java Programmer something like $120,000+. They have had the position open for two years now. They also do referrals - if Q9 was a Senior Java Programmer, and I put a referral in for him and he was offered and accepted the position, in a year, my workplace would give me a check for $20,000. Dead serious. Do you think I can find a Senior Java Programmer who needs a job ANYWHERE???

Even for referrals for lower level, semi-technical work (aka good customer service skills, typing of 45+ wpm), I can land a $200 referral.

Problem is, there aren't that many folks who fit the bill. The place I work for has hired about 250 lower level folks like the above - out of thousands of applications. For the position I moved into, 50 people applied for 2 positions. The majority couldn't pass the testing.

There's not enough McDonald's jobs for those who are able to work at McDonalds, and not enough programmers to fill the jobs that need programmers.

As for me, I'm aiming to learn to become a Senior Java Programmer

 

[Gonzo]

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Good for you! Thats awesome! I started out in my factory job as a line worker, and throughout the years advanced to a supervisors position. My problem right now... I'm either over or under qualified for jobs. I've sent out at least 600 resumes... it makes me sick!

 

[EweSheep]

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Good for you! Thats awesome! I started out in my factory job as a line worker, and throughout the years advanced to a supervisors position. My problem right now... I'm either over or under qualified for jobs. I've sent out at least 600 resumes... it makes me sick!

Maybe employers really do not know what they are looking for either.

 

[Q9]

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That's pretty scary, considering that it's easier to start a business there than here, regulation-wise. Check out Singapore - it ranks a good deal higher on the economic freedom index than the US, but it's not exactly a worker's nightmare.

Tell me, where did you get the 50 cents an hour, 16 hours a day statistic?

Guess what? Not everyone who disagrees with the government's agenda is payed by corporations! My Number One rule in these kind of things is "Follow the money." I so far have not seen how Hazlitt, Woods, DiLorenzo, Schiff, Murphy, and others are paid by corporations. We can both play that game - I could accuse your beloved Keynesians of being paid by the government. Of course, we all know that most of them are not - most do research and arrive at their conclusions. However, I have weighed their claims against the Austrian School's claims, and the Keynesians have been found wanting. Stop resorting to Ad Hominem trash and debate like an adult.

 

[deerman]

problem I see with extending unemployment. My son was laid off whem GM closed his plant. Yet He took a lot less paying job, alot and I mean alot of his coworker refuse to take lower paying jobs because they keep getting extendtion on unemployment , some have been almost 3 year........myself I think give them some kind if work......after the first 6 months those monies come from tax payers.


Oh my employer, just put and ad in the local paper.....you would think there was a line outside.........Nooooo... Yes they pay well also, with profit sharing every 3 months.....hard work yes.....

 

[Q9]

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I ask this every time it's brought up - what deregulation?! Every time I ask, nobody answers. Don't disappoint me this time. I would also like the text and summary of the bill, thank you.

 

[mom'sfolly]

Another fine idea would be to replace Boards of Directors with people who didn't vote on each other's salaries. Make CEO, CFO etc pay actually tied to job performance. No more multimillion dollar parachutes for those leaving companies that are loosing money, no more paying CEO hundreds of millions when the company is making money.

Unemployment has this cool little built in function...you must be applying for jobs while on it. If you do not, it is immediately cut off. So it is hard to milk the system, except by applying for jobs you are wildly unqualified for. People probably do it, but is rare.

 

[Q9]

mom'sfolly :

Another fine idea would be to replace Boards of Directors with people who didn't vote on each other's salaries. Make CEO, CFO etc pay actually tied to job performance. No more multimillion dollar parachutes for those leaving companies that are loosing money, no more paying CEO hundreds of millions when the company is making money.

Unemployment has this cool little built in function...you must be applying for jobs while on it. If you do not, it is immediately cut off. So it is hard to milk the system, except by applying for jobs you are wildly unqualified for. People probably do it, but is rare.

I've seen quite a few people milking unemployment, actually. That little function apparently doesn't work too well.​

 

[michickenwrangler]

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Haha, we only have one TV as well.

I agree with what you've said about our culture - that is also a major part of the problem. The lack of foresight is a serious issue, since in the end the cheap stuff ends up costing more than the "expensive" stuff. American's are just trained to think only one step ahead, rather than several steps.

Isn't it ironic? More and more people now are trying out gardening and chicken-raising despite the GIMME NOW! culture. There may be hope for the American people yet.

My students think I'm absolutely insane for living in a 600 sq. foot cabin with only one TV. Actually, the TV is in a spot where it can be watched from virtually any room in the house! Even outside.

Even though we're in a rural dairy farming area, I'm amazed at the materialism of today's youth.

For every job opening in Michigan, the "experts" say there are at least 100 applicants. It is so hard to get a job in today's economy in this state. A lot of people gave up and moved down to NC and TX

 

[Q9]

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Haha, we only have one TV as well.

I agree with what you've said about our culture - that is also a major part of the problem. The lack of foresight is a serious issue, since in the end the cheap stuff ends up costing more than the "expensive" stuff. American's are just trained to think only one step ahead, rather than several steps.

Isn't it ironic? More and more people now are trying out gardening and chicken-raising despite the GIMME NOW! culture. There may be hope for the American people yet.

My students think I'm absolutely insane for living in a 600 sq. foot cabin with only one TV. Actually, the TV is in a spot where it can be watched from virtually any room in the house! Even outside.

Even though we're in a rural dairy farming area, I'm amazed at the materialism of today's youth.

For every job opening in Michigan, the "experts" say there are at least 100 applicants. It is so hard to get a job in today's economy in this state. A lot of people gave up and moved down to NC and TX

In my opinion, materialism takes the joy out of living. What fun is it when you always have to upgrade? The computer I'm on right now is the first up-to-date modern computer I've ever used.

ETA: Sounds like you have the kind of house I want.