UPDATE!!! favus treatment not working Ideas? NEW pics???

[Mammabuckbuck]

My flock has had Favus for 3 weeks now....I treated with tinactin first 2 weeks with no result....Then treated with micozonal last week....I see very little improvement and going in every evening to treat them is getting to be quite the chore....It seems they are getting balder and crustier everyday....I'm at my wits end and really don't know what to do....I found this article on how to treat human Favus and would like some input on whether or not it would work on chickens.....I am a very sanitary chicken owner....I treat them well and feed them well...and I am very sad because nothing is working....Ugh!!!

Article

Favus requires treatment with an oral anti fungal agent. As used in other types of tinea capitis griseofulvin is probably the most effective agent for infection with Trichophyton schoenleinii, but is no longer available in New Zealand. More recent clinical studies indicate that Trichophyton schoenleinii infections may successfully be eradicated using oral terbinafine, itraconazole or fluconazole. Treatment with these antifungal agents may require a longer treatment course then usual for tinea capitis.

In addition to systemic treatment, topical agents such as 2% ketoconazole and 2.5% selenium sulphide shampoos may be helpful. Debris and crusts from the scalp should be removed and the scalp cleaned regularly.

Favus is essentially a chronic disease and can last from 10 to 20 years. If it is not diagnosed and treated appropriately it can lead to alopecia (hair loss) and extensive scarring.
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What do you think....Shoud i add fluconazole to they water and wash their heads with dandruff shampoo...then use the cream?

Please give me some input.....I really need it...they are getting balder by the day

My orptington rooster and his girls have it the worse with feather loss and crusty scabs, my americaunna much milder almost no feather loss but still crusty and it won't go away, I didn't post pic of my brahmas because they have a very mild case with no feather loss and just a few white specks on the combs which is practically gone...I only posted pics of the worst ones.....Each breed has their own stall and have no physical...the only time they see each other is outside...each run is seperated by wire fencing....

 

[Sumatra55]

do you have a pics of the birds ?

 

[Mammabuckbuck]

I will add some later today....I got to get batteries for my camera.....but it is possible

 

[Sumatra55]

where are you from ?? has it been very cold there recently ?? The male's comb in the first pic looks a lot like frost bite ?? IDK if you from somewhere it cold have gotten cold or not. The head on the second hen looks like normal wear from a male ?? I do not see anything wrong with the next two pics ?? I dont think chickens get Farvus, the closest thing would be dermatitis.

 

[purpletree23]

Favus looks like the comb is dry but it starts peeling. I don't see any peeling. I could be wrong but I've never heard of Favus being treated orally. It's usually in an ointment form.

Tomorrow contact tristatevetsupply.com or
jefferslivestock.com
and see what they tell you. They are my 2 favorite sites to purchase medicines and medical supplies and first aid materials. I'm sure one will be able to help.

Let us know what happens

 

[Mammabuckbuck]

Okay so i may have be treating for the wrong thing?

I did find crusty yellow stuff on some of the chickens but no peeling... will try anything to get them better at this point...I live in Canada northern Ontario to be more precise....

how could my rooster be the only one with frostbite?......and for my girls....Some of them have feathers missing down their necks?.....Could it be mites? they have wood ash in their dusting bath and use it a lot, that's why they look so grungy....Could they be molting?.....

 

[Mammabuckbuck]

Could it be northern fowl mite that leaves them bald with curtsy yellow at the base of the feathers?

 

[ChickensAreSweet]

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=5665569
Here is a pic of favus on this thread posted by one of the moderators (scroll down). Frostbite and favus are noted in the top post's pictures according to the thread.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=452070
and here in post #5 she describes favus

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=5437181
see post #4

I hope everything works out for you.

 

[ChickensAreSweet]

Quote:
If you even suspect mites, I would definitely treat. I even have mine on a treatment schedule to prevent future problems, since we have had them twice. The songbirds carry them in.

Here is a helpful website for mite treatment:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/vme-fact/0018.html

Sorry I have no experience with favus or frostbite. But that pic of your roo really does resemble frostbite pics I've seen on here.

 

[ivan3]

For whatever reason (temp diff. at margins promotes the fruiting?) this is often associated with large combs during recovery from frostbite (can move around between birds via beaks). Keep treatiing daily (massage the antifungal on with fingers). I keep a `solution' of pine tar, antibiotic ointment, tinacatin, miconazole that can be rubbed onto combs/wattles (abrasions/picking/fungus).

Be persistent (if it is fungal):

Miconazole nitrate 2% was tested for its efficacy against Microsporum gallinae (the causative agent in favus) in a flock of various Oriental breed (Shamo and Aseel) and crossbreed chickens. Six adult males showing clinical signs of favus were randomized into control and experimental groups. The males were maintained on individual tiecords on the range, with no physical contact between birds. The experimental birds had the affected areas washed with soap and water and dried, and an ointment of miconazole nitrate 2% was applied. The experimental birds received the treatment twice a day for 34 days. Scrapings from the affected areas of all birds were cultured at the beginning and end of the test. At the end of the treatment period, the control birds were still positive for M. gallinae, but the organism could not be cultured from the treated birds.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8719227​