Weird air cells on fresh eggs

[Pyxis]

Thanks....how does not turning the egg for that long affect possible 'sticking' of embryo?
Any thought on the bubbles?
I probably should get a pic, maybe will try tomorrow.

For ones like that I have them upright in the carton and 'turn' them by just gently leaning them from side to side in place.

 

[aart]

Thought I'd keep this updated....might as well see it thru.
Detached cell started to develop but quit at about day 5-6.
One fat end cell shifted to a side cell by day 7.
All side cells, including the shifted one, are doing well today(day 10).

 

[Alaskan]

Was candling prior to setting a batch of eggs today and found a detached air cell on an egg laid just yesterday. Also found a few with air cells on, or closer to, the side of the egg instead of on the fat end.

Anyone ever seen this?

Have seen the side cell on a friends eggs once.
Just wondering how this happens and how common it is?
Wondering if all the wonky cells are likely from the same bird.
Egg are all from my 4 CCL's so no telling which bird it might have been.

Just tagging folks I know hatch a lot...but anyone with hatching experience is welcome to reply.
@ChickenCanoe @Pyxis @WVduckchick @Redhead Rae

TIA

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I actually don't think the side air cells or detached ones are super uncommon. Reason being, I boil a fair few eggs regularly, and I know that in every batch of 6-12 I do I get at LEAST one, if not two with side air cells. Both store bought and home laid. They stay fat end up in the refrigerator, so either they're side cells or they're detached and go to the side as they steam or boil.

Both of you, how old are those hens?

I have found that the eggs of some of older hens decline in quality.

It is also clearly an individual thing too (when it has been eggs that I can recognize).

I had one hen, who even from a pullet had horrid quality eggs. Her yolk and air cell never seemed to be properly supported like they should be... bad chalaza.

In the older hens that used to lay good eggs, I think the membrane holding the yolk together gets weaker, and yes their air cells tend to be odd. As in the air cell gets bubbles. I can't remember if I played with them to see if the bubble air cells were completely detached or not.

However, any even slight bubble in the air cell and I don't think they ever hatch.

 

[Alaskan]

Oh... the weak yolk membrane... you shake her eggs and they slosh! If you shake them again they scramble inside the shell! Oddest thing.

 

[aart]

Both of you, how old are those hens?

~10 months old....she's just a 'lemon', IMO.
Have since candled other eggs and they also have detached cells,
but I have 4 of that breed so can't who is laying them.

 

[Mosey2003]

I generally don't have anyone older than 2 years around. I boiled a bunch of pullet eggs last year though and I know I saw at least one side cell. I'm actually having an issue with my two breeders' eggs not developing even though they've been fertilized and I'm seriously terrified I might have egg quality issues. Hoping it's just because it's still chilly out, but still...

 

[WVduckchick]

~10 months old....she's just a 'lemon', IMO.
Have since candled other eggs and they also have detached cells,
but I have 4 of that breed so can't who is laying them.

Break out the food coloring.

 

[aart]

Break out the food coloring.

Yeah, don't think it's that important.....nor, surprisingly, am I that curious.

 

[WVduckchick]

Yeah, don't think it's that important.....nor, surprisingly, am I that curious.

I’m so disappointed in you. I thought you would have to know!

 

[aart]

I’m so disappointed in you. I thought you would have to know!

IKR!?
It may come to that, but for now....nah.
If I was doing more hatching and had space to separate birds,
it would have already happened.