WE'RE STUMPED, PLEASE HELP! Chicken foot scabs & bumps... (with photos)

[ChickNanny13]

Figured out we got several bumble foot issues going on but similar ...
@erinnire - How's your RIR hen

 

[Kiki]

Following. Two initial comments.

DE will not get rid of the mites.
If you see them you need to aggressively treat for them. Both birds and coop.
Permethrin fly spray for horses is effective and cheap.

Also that boil on the top of the foot is painful because it’s full of infection and needs to be opened and cleaned out.

The infection on the bottom of the foot has traveled UP to there.

This X2.

 

[ChickNanny13]

3x

 

[Saaniya]

Figured out we got several bumble foot issues going on but similar ...
@erinnire - How's your RIR hen

Damn this bumblefoot going on with everyone around world

 

[Saaniya]

Guys I just want to share this with u all where I brought Medicine it's a licensed vet Medicine store I talked there about this bumblefoot

They told me to use Oral Antibiotics are must from mild to major cases

Oral antibiotics will stop the Infection spreading
So must give oral antibiotics
I'm currently using Baytril 10%

My sulfadiazine will come tomorrow

 

[Saaniya]

I agree with @staceyj that it's spread to the top of the foot and it all needs to be cleaned out well. If you have a vet that can assist that would be best, as always. I've been dealing with a very stubborn case for some time and it spread to the ankle, I lanced the ankle to clean it out and when flushing the ankle the solution came out the bottom of the foot, so that's how it can tunnel through tissue. Some infections are more ribbon/string like through the foot rather than a compact kernal, which is what I've been dealing with. I had tried tricide neo, amoxicillin, penicillin and enrofloxacin, all with no improvement. I put him on SMZ-TMP (sulfa) orally every 12 hours, with a few drops of enrofloxacin oral solution in the wounds, and finally saw some improvement. The sulfa was very hard on his gut so I had to reduce the dose to complete 10 days, then I put him on cephalexin for 6 days every 6 hours and the improvement is much better. He's now on a low dose of sulfa again for a while, low enough that he's tolerating it well. I had reached the point where it was going to be necessary to cull if it wasn't stopped, so threw the kitchen sink at it, I'm cautiously optimistic at this point as swelling is gone, and it doesn't appear to be making pus anymore. I also use sugardine/honey poultices with every dressing change on the wounds/lesions, they help inhibit growth of bacteria.

In the first post, mites were found on the bird in question. Mites will often find a bird that is affected by something else.

As u say to pour some drops of the baytril on wound so can I apply Mupirocin Ointment at the same time too & wrap it ?

 

[coach723]

Not sure if it would be good to use both at the same time. I really don't know. I wasn't getting any help with neosporin so switched to using the baytril instead, I didn't do both at the same time.

 

[Saaniya]

Not sure if it would be good to use both at the same time. I really don't know. I wasn't getting any help with neosporin so switched to using the baytril instead, I didn't do both at the same time.

Ohkay I'll try that too ..
I hope my boy will recover

 

[aart]

Not sure if it would be good to use both at the same time. I really don't know. I wasn't getting any help with neosporin so switched to using the baytril instead, I didn't do both at the same time.

Is Baytril effective if applied topically?
Isn't it usually injected IM for systemic infection?

 

[coach723]

Is Baytril effective if applied topically?
Isn't it usually injected IM for systemic infection?

I tried it because it was recommended by another poster who's vet recommended using Baytril Otic, which is enrofloxacin/silver sulfadiazine, on their birds foot in conjunction with sulfa orally. I haven't been able to obtain that (Baytril Otic) since it needs an RX, but could get plain enrofloxacin oral solution from pigeon supply, so I figured nothing would be lost by trying it. It did seem to work better than neosporin, but I was doing oral sulfa or cephalexin at the same time, so not sure how effective it was on it's own. I'm still using it when I do bandage changes. I don't know how much affect is lost by not having the silver sulfadiazine combo.