What do you all think about Euthanasia?

[oldrooster]

My friend had a step dad.She just found out he had cancer.Should have lived another 6 months to a year.Step dad has *friends* who shipped him off to hospic once he was extremely drugged up.Told hospic he had no family.He had a brother and my friend(step daughter).He was shipped off on a Friday night.Satuday the *friends* were in and out of his apartment..My friend found out he was moved to hospic on Sunday.She had just seen him Thursday and he was ok despite the cancer.After that some *friend* always answered his phone.

She went there on Snday.Told them who she was and that he had family.He had no will or medical directive,but she was given temp legal rights.He had not been given water or food since arriving at hospic.Just more drugs which in combination was actually killing him.A *friend* was there 24/7 talking to other *freinds* on his phone.By Monday 5am he was dead.The *friends* refused to hand over his apratment keys or phone saying it would be given to the office at 9am.Well shoot if those people did not have 2 pick ups at the place at 8am loading up the poor mans stuff.They even stole his truck.

My point in all this is have your legal papers ready now.Do not wait till you are sick.I am still shocked that strangers can essentially take over a person and get hospic to just accept whatever they say since the man was drugged.You would think they would stop the drugs long enough to get some coherent information out of him. I still think people have the right to die when they want too,but it scares me to think someone could kill me when I DON'T want to die.....like my friends step-dad.

Even with legal paper work this can happen. ever hear of years after someone dies a newer will turns up or the family sespects there is a new will but don't know who the lawer is to find it and enforce it????? Also think of it this way a restraining order is a legal paper and how many times does people end up beaten up or killed by people who have a restraining order against them? doing the paper work helps but it is only worth what it's written on.

 

[mississippifarmboy]

i had a very close friend of for over 25 years die from cancer. in the last month of his life he called me and asked me to take care of him in his end stages of life. this to me is what i call friendship. the last 2 weeks of his life, by the direction of hospice home nurses, i put him in drugged coma. basically overdosing of morphine . if were totally up to me i
would have overdosed him fully. his family asked me not to. i would have no problem with it. be- leave me it would have been a mercy kill. judge if you will but until you have seen a persons skin fall off and leave open wounds showing muscle and smell the rotting flesh, do not judge.
for the g-d fearing people. nothing wrong with that. however even g-d had angels.my biggest sorrow was letting him suffer that way. i watched a once vibrant human being with a zest for life.go from full of life to dwindling down to less than nothing.
you tell me the correct answer.

Bruce, I went through something similar this spring with a close friend who had terminal cancer. He made it about a month longer in horrible pain than I would have before he ended his suffering. We had several talks about it as his time wound down. He asked me once if he waited too long and didn't have the strength in the end if I would do it for him.

Would I have done it?

He would have done it for me.

I guess by the standards of most people that makes me an evil person.


I can live with that.

 

[furbabymum]

Me, I would want to die when my mind died before my body. I don't want to have severe alzehiemers and not even recorgnize my kids. What kind of life will that be? I don't want them to remember me like that either. To me, being born isn't a choice but death could be. I'd want that choice.

 

[thaiturkey]

Me, I would want to die when my mind died before my body. I don't want to have severe alzehiemers and not even recorgnize my kids. What kind of life will that be? I don't want them to remember me like that either. To me, being born isn't a choice but death could be. I'd want that choice.

Would it not be worse if your mind was still fully functioning but your body was not? If your mind's 'died' then, presumably, you aren't aware of what's going on with your body.

Accept that you have the choice of killing yourself. Would you want the law to be changed so that someone could do the job for you? Allowing someone to kill someone else in certain circumstances is the issue in this thread, not killing yourself.

 

[furbabymum]

Would it not be worse if your mind was still fully functioning but your body was not? If your mind's 'died' then, presumably, you aren't aware of what's going on with your body.

Accept that you have the choice of killing yourself. Would you want the law to be changed so that someone could do the job for you? Allowing someone to kill someone else in certain circumstances is the issue in this thread, not killing yourself.

My family knows I would prefer to die and would carry out my wishes if they were able. So I'm on topic. I can't speak for others but if I wanted to die I would want the choice available to me. Even if I could not carry it out myself.

As for what would be worse, losing your mind or your body, that's an entirely different debate. My opinion is that the body can linger a long time after the mind is gone. You'd be much more likely to die sooner when the body gave out but the mind still worked.

 

[chickened]

Suppose you change your mind about killing yourself but are unable to tell the person doing it for you?

 

[chickened]

Me, I would want to die when my mind died before my body. I don't want to have severe alzehiemers and not even recorgnize my kids. What kind of life will that be? I don't want them to remember me like that either. To me, being born isn't a choice but death could be. I'd want that choice.

This does not make sense... everyone dies. Are you saying you have no power to give life but want the power to take it? That is how we treat animals.

Children tend to love thier parents despite thier state of mind. If my parents were not in pain I could never kill them.

 

[furbabymum]

This does not make sense... everyone dies. Are you saying you have no power to give life but want the power to take it? That is how we treat animals.

Children tend to love thier parents despite thier state of mind. If my parents were not in pain I could never kill them.

My life experience is probably a lot different than yours. I have lost a lot of family members to horrible diseases. I don't fear death. It is a relief to those who suffer and those who stand by and watch them suffer. It's a horrible feeling of impotence you get. You want to help your family member. You want to make them well. Take away their suffering. In the end you can do nothing but watch as they suffer and ultimately die. I don't want to suffer like that. If my death is going to happen but only after I've suffered horribly then I'd want to die before the suffering. I'd want to save those I love from watching the suffering.

Not to say I wouldn't fight through illness. I'd fight cancer and such. But there are some things that when you get them there is no cure, just death. I choose death.

Anyway, I meant you don't choose when you're born but you could choose when you die. Maybe you wouldn't make that choice but would you really deny others the opportunity to make that choice?

 

[furbabymum]

Suppose you change your mind about killing yourself but are unable to tell the person doing it for you?

Well as you said, everyone dies eventually. I'd just have sped up the process a bit.

 

[cassie]

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X3. You don't get any Brownie points in this life for pain. As for myself, I have zero pain tolerence. If faced with a terminal illness and unending pain, the only thing I would want is OUT and I hope those who love me would help me find a way if I couldn't do it myself. Contrary to what some people seem to think, death is not the worst thing that can happen. Not even close.