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[redrstr29]

hes soooooooo cute

 

[imtrying]

where does one get kitten milk? also, do you have the link to that article?

 

[misschickenlittle]

where I live there are so many lionheads that's why I bought mine from different states. Please post pics.

I see too much of this type of "Lionhead" for sale. Because Lionheads are so popular, everyone is trying to earn a buck by breeding them. This means that people are breeding any Lionheads they can get their hands on, leading to some very "unLionheady" Lionheads. As a Lionhead breeder, I'll tell you, they aren't easy to breed. Getting a good mane on them can be hard. Unfortunately, people are breeding mixes and selling them as Lionheads, eventually, through breeding, the offspring lose their manes and turn into what you most likely got. There's a lot more to a Lionhead's conformation (like any breed) than just a mane. Usually that's all people care about though, that and their small size. In my opinion, this is what's lead to the Lionheads with very poor type, but have manes. Breeders need to start focusing on the breed's overall type, not just mane. If we want this breed to become recognized, we need to show a consistent type of rabbit for the sake of the breed.

All that being said, if you love them, than that's all that matters. Should you breed them, probably not, but that of course is your decision. Shame on you for buying them? Not at all, but shame on the person who bred them with no regard for the breed.

Sorry for the rant, this issue is my biggest Lionhead pet peeve.

Thanks for all the responses on the lionhead issue. I will get pics later and post so you can see what I have. But if at 8+ weeks they don't show the mane I am assuming they won't.
If I breed my buck fake lionhead to my angora doe, will that produce lionheads?

 

[PrimroseMom1]

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where does one get kitten milk?  also, do you have the link to that article?

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It's KLM. They have it at PetSmart and most other pet stores. Be sure it is kitten milk because it is richer. Bunnies have very rich milk, that's why you have to add heavy cream. I liked the smaller cans better, stays fresher. Also, you have to feed them sitting up. Here's a foto feeding a bottle, but smaller ones are better with a syringe because you can measure how much they are getting and the end is smaller, my really young one couldn't do a bottle. I'll look for the article and post it. Good luck!!

 

[PrimroseMom1]

Here's a foto of the syringe I used. I got it from the vet to administer meds to my dog. An important trick I read about was to put a little Vaseline around the little black rubber tip after cleaning it, it makes the syringe move easily and smoothly, otherwise it is easy to squirt too much down the baby's throat.

 

[CicisBunnyBarn]

Thanks for all the responses on the lionhead issue. I will get pics later and post so you can see what I have. But if at 8+ weeks they don't show the mane I am assuming they won't.
If I breed my buck fake lionhead to my angora doe, will that produce lionheads?

I have and 6 week old buck with a mane coming in. And I wouldn't think it would the angora will probably make the babies look like jersey woollies. I just picked up more lionheads last night so I will try to take pics once the storm blows over.

 

[Bunnylady]

Thanks for all the responses on the lionhead issue. I will get pics later and post so you can see what I have. But if at 8+ weeks they don't show the mane I am assuming they won't.
If I breed my buck fake lionhead to my angora doe, will that produce lionheads?

The gene that causes the Lionhead coat is dominant, meaning that if they inherit it, you'll see it. A rabbit that has only one copy of the mane gene has what they call a "single mane." Single maned animals have a somewhat thin mane as youngsters, but it often gets even thinner as they mature. Some animals that had single manes wind up with no visible mane at all as adults.

Animals with two copies of the mane gene are what they call "double maned." As the term implies, double maned Lionheads have much thicker manes. They usually have some wool on their sides, too, which may or may not shed out as they mature. As a double maned kit begins to grow fur, the mane is clearly longer than the rest of his coat, and runs in a distinctive triangular wedge down his back - like this one (not my picture).


All of the offspring of a double maned Lionhead should have manes, at least as youngsters. Breed two double maned Lionheads together, and all of the offspring should be double maned. Breed a double maned to a rabbit with no mane, and you get all single maned kits. Breed single manes together, and you get some with single manes, some with double manes, and some with no manes. Even if both of their parents were Lionheads, rabbits that have no manes (and never had them), will not produce maned offspring when bred together. Of course, in the case of single manes that lost their manes as they matured, those visually have no manes but genetically they are single manes, and they can produce maned offspring.

 

[CicisBunnyBarn]

The gene that causes the Lionhead coat is dominant, meaning that if they inherit it, you'll see it. A rabbit that has only one copy of the mane gene has what they call a "single mane." Single maned animals have a somewhat thin mane as youngsters, but it often gets even thinner as they mature. Some animals that had single manes wind up with no visible mane at all as adults. Animals with two copies of the mane gene are what they call "double maned." As the term implies, double maned Lionheads have much thicker manes. They usually have some wool on their sides, too, which may or may not shed out as they mature. As a double maned kit begins to grow fur, the mane is clearly longer than the rest of his coat, and runs in a distinctive triangular wedge down his back - like this one (not my picture). All of the offspring of a double maned Lionhead should have manes, at least as youngsters. Breed two double maned Lionheads together, and all of the offspring should be double maned. Breed a double maned to a rabbit with no mane, and you get all single maned kits. Breed single manes together, and you get some with single manes, some with double manes, and some with no manes. Even if both of their parents were Lionheads, rabbits that have no manes (and never had them), will not produce maned offspring when bred together. Of course, in the case of single manes that lost their manes as they matured, those visually have no manes but genetically they are single manes, and they can produce maned offspring.

You say it better than I do! Lol!

 

[misschickenlittle]

The gene that causes the Lionhead coat is dominant, meaning that if they inherit it, you'll see it. A rabbit that has only one copy of the mane gene has what they call a "single mane." Single maned animals have a somewhat thin mane as youngsters, but it often gets even thinner as they mature. Some animals that had single manes wind up with no visible mane at all as adults. Animals with two copies of the mane gene are what they call "double maned." As the term implies, double maned Lionheads have much thicker manes. They usually have some wool on their sides, too, which may or may not shed out as they mature. As a double maned kit begins to grow fur, the mane is clearly longer than the rest of his coat, and runs in a distinctive triangular wedge down his back - like this one (not my picture). All of the offspring of a double maned Lionhead should have manes, at least as youngsters. Breed two double maned Lionheads together, and all of the offspring should be double maned. Breed a double maned to a rabbit with no mane, and you get all single maned kits. Breed single manes together, and you get some with single manes, some with double manes, and some with no manes. Even if both of their parents were Lionheads, rabbits that have no manes (and never had them), will not produce maned offspring when bred together. Of course, in the case of single manes that lost their manes as they matured, those visually have no manes but genetically they are single manes, and they can produce maned offspring.

Great... :/ Guess I have 2 that are either NOT lionheads or both missed the gene... After phone charges a bit more I will get pics and post.

 

[misschickenlittle]

Here are my "Lionheads"

The doe:




The buck (not a good pic but he would not stand still!):



No fluff on either... Could they still be lionheads without the manes due to not picking up the gene? Or what are they?