Wheaten and Blue wheaten Marans Discussion Thread

[snowbird]

Hi VC, The wheaten should have the black on the wing feathers and the Blue wheaten should have Blue where the wheaten is Black. The tail on wheaten for the main is black with the coverts wheaten. The Blue wheaten main tail is Blue with the covert wheaten.

I think you remember before that I stated not to use the wheaten from the blue wheaten back into the pure wheaten as it will introduce inferior type and color into the regular wheaten causing you to loose a lot of time trying to upgrade.

These comments are only for those of us breeding for type and color. Don

 

[VillageChicken]

Thanks Don,
I thought I remembered that there should be some black in the primaries of wheaten hens, at least on Ameraucanas, so I was confused when the discussion on this thread mentioned there should be no black, and then I saw the proposed standard that simply says "wheat color".

 

[VillageChicken]

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i agree, but I hope in a few years this will not still be the case.

 

[snowbird]

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VC, keep in mind that the USA wheaten Marans are recessive. Don

 

[PepsNick]

I was wondering if anyone could post some pictures of their adult Wheaten Marans, just for the fun of it. I need some chicken eye candy.

 

[Illia]

Your wish, my command.

Blue Wheaten, Wheaten male - They were young here but at least over 6 months of age.

 

[Debbi]

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Boy VC, I'd like to know that as well! At first it looked like the black primaries were accepted, but now??

Wheaten Hen as per the MCCU site:
The Hen:
The hens coat is a wheat color (the color of the grains of wheat). Each feather has a lighter staff and edge. Head and hackles are a rich wheaten color. The breast and the all underside of the body are cream colored. The secondary color is whitish.

Comb, Face, Wattles and Earlobes: Bright red.
Beak: Light horn shading to white at tip.
Eyes: Reddish bay.
Shanks and Toes: Pinkish white.
Head: Rich Wheaten. ( varying from golden-red to dark-red ).
Neck:
Hackle: Rich Wheaten (varying from golden-red to dark-red).
Front of neck: Rich Wheaten (varying from golden-red to dark-red).
Back: Wheaten.
Tail: Black with brown and black colored edges.
Wings: Wheat color.Breast: Cream color.
Body and Stern: Light Creamy Wheaten.
Legs & Lower Thighs: Light Creamy Wheaten.
Shank and Toe Feathering: Light Creamy Wheaten.
Ear down: Cream color.
Undercolor: Whitish to Cream color.

Blue Wheaten Hen as per the MCCU site:
Color of Female

Comb, Face, Wattles and Ear-Lobes: Bright red.
Beak: Light horn shading to white at tip.
Eyes: Reddish bay.
Shanks and Toes: Pinkish white.
Head: Rich wheaten.
Neck: Hackle—Lustrous medium wheaten.
Front of neck—Creamy Wheaten.
Back: Creamy Wheaten
Tail: Main Tail and Coverts—Two top main tail feathers rich wheaten, slightly stippled with blue.
Balance of main tail feathers, blue, outer edge slightly edged with wheaten.
Coverts—Same as back.
Wings: Fronts, Bows and Coverts—Light creamy wheaten.
Primaries—Outer web, medium shade of wheaten; inner web bluish wheaten stippled with brownish blue.
Secondaries—Outer web, wheaten; inner web bluish wheaten shaded with brownish blue. Breast: Creamy wheaten.
Body and Stern: Light creamy wheaten.
Legs: Lower Thighs—Same as body and stern.
Shank and Toe Feathers—Same as body and stern.
Undercolor: Sections vary from light cinnamon to very light slate

Doesn't make any sense if the blues can have the darker wing colors in blue, but the wheatens can't have it in black? Looks like more wording went into the blue wheatens when it came to wing color? More work needed, and I would sure like to know who has what as far as this goes. Think they need to re-phrase the hackle color too, as if you are trying for a 3 color wheaten effect, the hackles look more dark copper or reddish to me than wheat colored. And yes, I know about red/winter wheat, but many don't!

 

[PepsNick]

I just think that the wheatens are the most beautiful things. Thank you, Illia! And don't even begin to show me wheaten/blue wheaten roosters of ANY breed... It hurts too much!

 

[Illia]

Personally I think their written standard for Wheaten hen wings is rather ridiculous. One should at least elaborate into primaries, secondaries, etc. And a Wheaten of any breed should naturally have black in the primaries.

 

[berkeleysprings]

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