when will we stop calling them "cornish cross"?

[Amarisus]

I think part of it is laziness of people. I've noticed that when someone trys to make a "new breed" they just put the names of the breeds they used together rather than being creative and making up their own name. I mean they call a marans and a ameraucana olive eggers, but there is a breed called an Isbar they also lay green eggs but they are not olive eggers. A polish did not orginate from poland but we still call them that. Even though they don't look like cornish anymore people have been calling them that since they were "made" and unfornunately since whoever "made" them decided to call them that its probably going to stick for awhile. Now I don't know the history on the cx so I don't know if what I said is actually accurate or not I'm just assuming thats what happened

But ya, people are just lazy now days when it comes to names it seems. I ususally just call them "meat birds" but what IS the best name to call them?

 

[enel 1]

I think meat bird is probably the most accurate name,kinda says it all, and I never thought of heritage birds so Booker81 is right,broiler isn't that accurate either,but at least it isn't an actual breed name.I do try to educate people about the differences between meat birds and real Cornish,and real white Plym Rocks,I have all three kinds of chickens here and once I can show them the difference they start call "CX's" broilers but now I'm gonna have to reeducate them and get them saying "meat birds". hopefully this thread will educate a few people too!

 

[galanie]

Problem is, any bird could be called a meat bird if you're raising it for meat. I'll probably get h-ll for this, but while they dont' look like a LF Cornish, they certainly look more like that than they do any other breed. But agreed, it is a confusing term and we should call them something different. Broilers seems most appropriate to me. But that's just one opinion out of thousands.

 

[enel 1]

Problem is, any bird could be called a meat bird if you're raising it for meat. I'll probably get h-ll for this, but while they dont' look like a LF Cornish, they certainly look more like that than they do any other breed. But agreed, it is a confusing term and we should call them something different. Broilers seems most appropriate to me. But that's just one opinion out of thousands.

your right you gonna catch h-ll...from me, I'm not sure if you've ever seen LF Cornish befor, but aside from the thick legs there is absolutly no resemblance<if anything they resemble White Rocks and thats only in color and comb type.

 

[Buster52]

I don't know why we still refer to broilers as Cornish cross,that couldn't be further from the truth. Calling a broiler a "Cornish x" to me is like calling any other chicken by its original breeding. The birds, company's like Cobb/Vantress or Hubbard have are as close to a Cornish as a Cornish is to an Asil. these company's have birds that are pure breed and pedigreed,they have pedigree names such as Hubbards male line the "M99 or the M77" they have a list of different females for different growth rates such as the "Hubbard classic,the Flex,JA57,redbro M,just to name a few. Cobb has its own special pedigreed lines also like the "Avian48, Cobb500 and 700,their colored "range" bird breeder is called the Cobb Sasso150, now all these birds are PURE breed and pedigreed birds NOT "Cornish crosses"!! when these birds are bred together the resulting offspring is the modern BROILER. these company's NEVER refer to their birds as Cornish cross in any descriptions. so lets all PLEASE refer to these birds as what they are and that is :BROILERS (or meat birds ). thought I would just get that off my chest.

Except those you list aren't the only meat birds or broilers people raise. Anything you raise for meat is a meat bird.

 

[Buster52]

your right you gonna catch h-ll...from me, I'm not sure if you've ever seen LF Cornish befor, but aside from the thick legs there is absolutly no resemblanceQUOTE] You've never seen a real Cornish, then.

 

[enel 1]

i've never seen LF Cornish?? if you say so, this isnt an argument,but there is a few posters on here that I see thread after thread trying to dispute what the OP is trying to say,I dont even know if you really own chickens or not,you are only words on a screen to me,I know the difference between LF Cornish and a cobb 8 week broiler,if you cant tell the difference I'm sorry ,thats why I started this thread to educate people like you who dont know the difference. The other person that copied the first post and wrote"any bird can be a meat bird" read the entire thread befor you comment. have a nice day

 

[enel 1]

i guess it was the same person...

 

[galanie]

Well see we have the Red Rangers and Freedom Rangers and other slower growing birds that are grown for meat that aren't the regular white broilers. But they are intended just as meat birds. But not the same as what we refer to as the cornish cross. Different lines, etc. Yet are birds raised for meat only. They are different, have different lines though you could argue that they have some common lineage, yet are meat birds all the same. I'm more comfortable with Broiler when referring to the 9 Week Wonders.

But as for everything else in this thread, it's all opinion. I have one and so do all of us. I understand the frustration because of the confusion caused by calling the broilers cornish x and the like though.

 

[jrsckn]

Well, we could start calling them Tyson chickens after the largest chicken co in the US then there isn't a debate over any meat bird can be a meat bird/broiler

Or maybe Walmart Wonders