Where is the love? -Open discussion for considering our actions

[Magnolia Ducks]

Religion is not banned read the rules i copy and pasted
We strongly discourage religious, political, and other strongly divisive topics, and reserve the right to delete them at our discretion.


long as its civil it wouldnt


me too

anything disrespectful even if its a joke



Remember this is a family friendly community, so no swearing, foul language, or profanity. this is what the rules say




everyone gets offended diferntly
they shouldnt be the rules state
Remember this is a family friendly community, so no swearing, foul language, or profanity.

I guess OMG fits that definition

 

[lcwmt]

I am not familiar with the back story here, sorry.
However, my history includes 2 decades of social media/ internet groups and I can make some observations:
*Internet communication is fraught with miscommunication. There is little nuance.
*Some folks are isolated and rely on internet groups for their social groups - they need/want more than what is possible and sometimes get hurt feelings quite easily.
*All miscellaneous groups of people come together with different interpretations (gestalts). Being kind might often mean extending the benefit of the doubt.

In any group of mixed generations, often including folks from differing cultural backgrounds, misunderstandings will easily occur. Why not extend the charlty of the benefit of the doubt?

 

[WVduckchick]

I think that once you’ve (general term, not directed at anyone in particular) made a bad impression, it’s hard for others to “read” you any differently. So anyone that you offend, or anyone that offends you, will almost always be read as offensive. What’s the old saying about first impressions? The thing is, we make tons of first impressions every day around here! So try to make the best “first impression” with every single post!

And if anyone thinks it’s bad around here, join a few FB chicken groups. No holds barred, raging lunatics with no couth or self restraint! Those groups make BYC soooooo much pleasurable!

 

[Ol Grey Mare]

I think that once you’ve (general term, not directed at anyone in particular) made a bad impression, it’s hard for others to “read” you any differently. So anyone that you offend, or anyone that offends you, will almost always be read as offensive. What’s the old saying about first impressions? The thing is, we make tons of first impressions every day around here! So try to make the best “first impression” with every single post!

And if anyone thinks it’s bad around here, join a few FB chicken groups. No holds barred, raging lunatics with no couth or self restraint! Those groups make BYC soooooo much pleasurable!

I agree with "almost" everything you said here lol… just wanted to point out that there is actually a BYC Facebook group that is associated with this forum and is set up with terms of service and moderation very much like it is here.

 

[ejtrout31]

@ejtrout31 You yourself are guilty of a foul mouth and being negative. I distinctly remember a few posts/threads where you either asked for help and then retaliated at answers or were causing trouble and asked to leave, at which point you continued to be rude.
Which is fine. Most people are guilty of this. Myself included.

yes i know i have learned to bit my tongue we all have bad moments but we have to learn to have self control. Everyone interprets things different and before we post we have to put our selves in the people reading our posts shoes.

 

[Nifty-Chicken]

Hey everyone, we definitely appreciate helpful and friendly feedback and open discussion. In this case, the staff feel like this thread has run it's course and has teetered on the edge of what we (as a group) consider to be appropriate discussions for the public forum. This includes a handful of posts that reference private issues, drama, concerns, etc. between individual members that should either be taken to a private conversation / message between members, or reported to our amazing moderators.

On the topic of moderation: Our team isn't perfect, but we're SUPER LUCKY to have some of the best moderators in the WORLD! Also, our moderators are an incredibly diverse group that leverage their variety of life experiences and perspectives to work together to come to decisions that they feel are best for our wonderful community.

We've got about 40+ years of combined forum management experience on our team, and (again not perfect) we have a pretty solid track record. Also, a lot of problems / reports are nuanced and contextual and rarely black / white. That being the case, it's often VERY tricky to know the 100% "best" way to deal with every situation... but again, we do the best we can.

Regarding tone, being offended, offending, etc. We strongly suggest every member read this:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ked-topics-freedom-of-speech-trolling.182235/

... specifically this: "Remember there are lots of challenges with communicating by text only. So much is lost (tone, body language, etc.) which can cause a HUGE miscommunication problem. Per wikipedia:

"Some researchers put the level of nonverbal communication as high as 80 percent of all communication. More reasonably it could be at around 50-65 percent. That’s exactly what Mehrabian discovered in his communication study. He found that only 7 percent of communication comes from spoken words, 38 percent is from the tone of the voice, and 55 percent comes from body language."

So, you can see that in cases where people are reading and then posting replies to a comment, especially one that has a lot of emotion, a TON of information can be lost or miscommunication. This is usually responsible for 90% of the problems on forums which cause threads to be locked or removed."

... and regarding the original question "Have you noticed more general hostility on this forum lately?"

This is an incredibly subjective issue, and one of perspective that can be skewed significantly by each person's unique experiences and interactions. That said, we actually have some quantifiable ways to measure user sentiment, etc. on the back-end. We also have some more subjective ways of measuring levels of friendliness, hostility, etc.

... and I've VERY happy to report that all signals point to BYC having really strong & consistent positive sentiment, interactions, and user experience. Is it perfect all the time? Nope. But based on our research, the extremely low levels of "hostility" on BYC are exponentially lower than the VAST majority of other forums and social-media platforms.

With all that said, I'm going to close this thread. If peeps want to continue the discussion, feel free to do so privately with other members and/or any of the moderation team.

Thanks again to all of our amazingly awesome helpful and friendly members (and moderators) that make BYC such a wonderful place to be!