Why Do SSS

[chickencoop31320]

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Human error again; our door doesn't latch unless you turn the lock; someone forgot to lock it; goat head butted it and it opened; dog saw opportunity. I am embarrassed to admit this has happened more than once. No one around here has chickens besides me; but my neighbor does not want my dog on his land and I don't blame him.

I agree some people are just careless or inconsiderate. But sometimes even nice people make mistakes.

I have a goat that will headbutt anything with in reach, I know how pesky they can be! LOL
At least nothing happened to your dog.

 

[Buster52]

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And I can't think of a single one. It's nice that so many points of view are presented here, don't you think?

 

[G Wiz Ranch]

#1 reason for me. It is the quickest and the easiest way to rid a predator and killer dogs. I have been through enough killed chickens, I don't owe it to anyone to tell them what I did. If they were so concerned about their dogs, they would have kept them on a leash or trained them to stay off my land and away from child and livestock. Where I live, I am 100% legal to shoot "any 4 legged" predator that "disturbs" my livestock, including dogs, that is according an agent of the California Department of Fish and Game. They were the ones that suggested I SSS, saves them paperwork. The local Animal Control people would not advise me, they referred me to F&G. Also, I would never shoot bird that was not in season, I have not had any attacks on my chickens from birds, just my Boston Terrier, lets just say, she doesn't like to go out at night and is not a fan of the "Great Horned Owl", and she has scars that remind her why.

 

[citrusdreams]

Especially for a repeat offender, I really don't see what informing the dog owner is going to do except stir the pot. To me, it's just encouraging drama. I mean, for a repeat offender, I've already warned them. If they still refuse to contain their dog, talking to them prior to the shooting wasn't productive, so I really just don't see what good would come out of talking to them about it afterwards. And anyway, if the repeat offender has again let their dog out, and one day it doesn't come back, they should know what happened to it, we already talked about it. I guess I feel I'd be gloating if I called them up and said, "hey your dogs were here again and I shot them". Calling them and telling them, "hey your dogs were here again and I shot at them, and I'm not sure if I got them or not", didn't work. I'd only tell them I shot their dog out of anger, and I'm going to try to refrain from doing that.

If I'm expected to "let it go" when their dogs attack my livestock then they can "let it go" when I shoot their dogs for attacking my livestock. After all, the golden rule does apply. Do unto others. Maybe they don't really want to know? If they want me to shut up, go away, and get over it, then they should too.

As for the random stray dog (which have always actually been good farm dogs in my good luck), I wouldn't know who their owner is the first place. Why would I go seek them out and tell them I shot their dog? They might go crazy, and again, drama drama drama. I wouldn't just shoot a visiting dog unless it was attacking something anyway, and if it's attacking something, it really is NOT my problem that it was so-and-so's best friend.

If a dog was in attack mode on my property, and if the owner was running behind it going insane trying to get a hold of it, unless it was massacring one of my dogs or kids or family members, I would give the owners the opportunity to contain it and have them reimburse me for any other damages.

For me, I just don't get why someone would further stir the pot by seeking out dead dog owners and telling them all about it. For me, that's just antagonistic. If I'm not wanting to stir the pot, or not angry, I probably wouldn't tell them even if they asked. Again, I don't see what good can come of it. They're not going to go nuts wondering about the dog, because they know what their dogs are up to and they know how people feel about it. To me, if my neighbor with the prey-driven dogs let her dogs out ( and believe me, she knows what they're up to) and I shoot them, and she starts calling me asking me if I've seen them, I'd say she's looking for an arguement (as usual).

I don't think it's kind to inform them, I think it's just giving them something to mill over and chew on.

We all have our ways of dealing with things. If you can't sleep at night because you're worried about dog owners worrying over their dog that you just shot. Then you SHOULD tell them for your own peace of mind. I can certainly understand that. But I think it's cruel if you just want to stir the pot.

My reason, and for me, it's a good reason: I would SSS to avoid adding fuel to the flames. Bad things already happened. No one wins when someone's animals invade your property, threaten or actually kill one of your own, and then you have the burden of kill the invading animal. It's stressful enough to kill a dog, not a pleasure. I'm not one of those people who will be elated and excited, especially if it's not killed with the first shot. I will be very upset. Why make yourself more upset by adding drama into the equation?

 

[bantamsrus]

G Wiz Ranch-- That combo of symbols is hilarious!!!

Do you think I could make a sign out of it and post it in my front lawn as a warning?

 

[G Wiz Ranch]

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Make one for me too,

 

[Buster52]

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Because I think it is the right thing to do, in my case, and the right thing isn't always the easy thing.

 

[MysticScorpio82]

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Each situation is different and unique. Sometimes telling the owners is the right thing to do, however there are time where that simply is not the case. You need to choose what works best for your situation. If your neighbor is a sociopath who you know will harm you, your family or your animals in retailiation, there is no way I will tell them. SSS.

I have read too many times about someone trying to do the right thing and tell the dog owners and then they end up shot. I am not saying this is the case all lthe time, and there are many times where you know you can tell the dog owner without worrying about the risks. I am just saying, know the situation, know the person before you make a judgment, then choose whether the right thing to do is tell or to SSS.

 

[chickencoop31320]

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Each situation is different and unique. Sometimes telling the owners is the right thing to do, however there are time where that simply is not the case. You need to choose what works best for your situation. If your neighbor is a sociopath who you know will harm you, your family or your animals in retailiation, there is no way I will tell them. SSS.

I have read too many times about someone trying to do the right thing and tell the dog owners and then they end up shot. I am not saying this is the case all lthe time, and there are many times where you know you can tell the dog owner without worrying about the risks. I am just saying, know the situation, know the person before you make a judgment, then choose whether the right thing to do is tell or to SSS.

Couldn't have put it better myself...

Some folks are better with words I guess.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

We live back off the beaten path, you have to drive thru a corn field just to get to where our property is. Anyway, we had some people move in down the street, they have a dog, a nice looking red bone doberman mix. Wouldn't you know it dog is running everywhere. I would see it out in the field in front of us from time to time and after a while it starts coming closer and closer, one Sunday morning I see it on our property.... started to go get a gun, thought about it and didn't. Monday afternoon I stop at the neighbors house on the way home to express my views. As i'm talking to the son in his late 20's, no issues, just calmly talking and telling them why I would like their dog to stay off my property mom comes out and makes the comment, "well it's my dog and I can't control where it goes". So I tried to explain to her and got the same answer again. My responce was "if you can't control it and it comes on my land then I will". They did get the hint though as the dog no longer runs free.

But they don't wave when I drive down the road.... for some reason

Steve in NC