Worming a duck with SafeGuard goat wormer

[seminolewind]

Nice pictures, Kathy

I do think it's a good idea to rotate (thanks for reminding me) because chickens generally live in the same area their whole lives. It would be easy for that situation breed resistant worms.

 

[Miss Lydia]

What's feces being examined coprologically? Sound kind of weird doesn't it?

Yes it does. interesting question

 

[casportpony]

 
You're welcome! Later I'll break it down to actual amounts of Valbazen per pound.

-Kathy

Thanks your a gem. and do you still think it's good to switch back and forth between Valbazen and safe Guard? like this year since i started with Valbazen finish it up with Valbazen then next year do Safe Guard  or switch every time you worm?

With horses we rotate classes of wormers.... Ivermectin is one, pyrantel pamoate another and fenbendazole (Safeguard) is a third. I guess one could do the same with birds, but some of the wormers won't treat all of the worms. For example, I think pyrantel pamoate will only treat roundworms, but I might be wrong, and piperazine (Wazine) will only treat roundworms.

I know many rotate between Safeguard and Valbazen, and that's probably better than not switching to another class. This is a subject that I will discuss with my vet the next time I'm there. As for what I use, Safeguard, is what I use most, but I also have pamoate, praziquantel and ivermectin just for the horses, though I have experimented with it and the birds. Since I have other animals, I buy wormers that can be used safely on all of them.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

@casportpony
                 Another question can you buy the stuff to do your own testing for worms or would that be more expensive than asking the vet to do it? and how much poop do you need to take and does it have to be separated into each poultry you have like geese would be in one ducks in another/chickens etc?

I don't know of a way to do affordable fecals at home, but we decided it was something we'd like to do and are in the process of setting up a lab. Once we set it up I will get to teach myself how to do fecals, gram stains and cultures! Very exciting for me, lol.

A peafowl friend of mine has a mixed flock and does routine fecals, so l'll ask him what he does. I don't do routine fecals, but not because I don't think it's a good idea. I think it's a great idea, but I'm too lazy to go collect a bunch of fresh poop.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Quote:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterinary_parasitology
Coprological

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Coprological examinations involve examining the feces of animals to identify and count parasite eggs. Some common methods include fecal flotation and sedimentation to separate eggs from fecal matter. Others include the McMaster method, which uses a special two-chamber slide that allows parasite eggs to be more clearly visible and easily counted. It is most commonly used to monitor parasites in horses and other grazing and livestock animals. The Baermann method is similar but requires more specialized equipment and more time and is typically used to diagnose lungworm and threadworm.[4]
-Kathy

 

[Miss Lydia]

With horses we rotate classes of wormers.... Ivermectin is one, pyrantel pamoate another and fenbendazole (Safeguard) is a third. I guess one could do the same with birds, but some of the wormers won't treat all of the worms. For example, I think pyrantel pamoate will only treat roundworms, but I might be wrong, and piperazine (Wazine) will only treat roundworms.

I know many rotate between Safeguard and Valbazen, and that's probably better than not switching to another class. This is a subject that I will discuss with my vet the next time I'm there. As for what I use, Safeguard, is what I use most, but I also have pamoate, praziquantel and ivermectin just for the horses, though I have experimented with it and the birds. Since I have other animals, I buy wormers that can be used safely on all of them.

-Kathy

Thanks K.

 

[casportpony]

What I really like about Valbazen is that one small dose will treat capillary worms, unlike Safeguard where a much larger dose is needed for several days in a row. Bang for the buck, Valbazen is the better wormer.

-Kathy

 

[Miss Lydia]

What I really like about Valbazen is that one small dose will treat capillary worms, unlike Safeguard where a much larger dose is needed for several days in a row. Bang for the buck, Valbazen is the better wormer.

-Kathy

Well I bought 1L of it so I am glad to hear that.

 

[casportpony]

There is a study that shows a huge single dose of Safeguard will treat capillary worms, but the dose is huge and I don't feel comfortable recommending it. It's one I will use on some of mine if I think I won't be able to catch them five days in a row or if I'm feeling lazy.

-Kathy

 

[Amykins]

There is a study that shows a huge single dose of Safeguard will treat capillary worms, but the dose is huge and I don't feel comfortable recommending it. It's one I will use on some of mine if I think I won't be able to catch them five days in a row or if I'm feeling lazy.

-Kathy

I sorta trust decades of veterinary experience over one article you googled up. Sorry Kath, that's just how it is. :/

As for my vet visit, the worming wasn't necessary after all. Their fecal pap showed no signs of worms this time 'round (yay!) so we didn't treat. So sorry I let you guys down on that front. I did learn Wobbles is gettin' a bit chubby though, so no more peas and corn treats until he loses an ounce or two, lol!